I've heard that you don't need to take estrogen blockers when you do a cycle with win. I've also read that win counteracts estrogenic side-effects. I'm leaning towards not taking my Nolv. I'm doing a 8 week cycle, test 250ml 2x a week and decided to go the last 4 weeks with the win 50 mg ED (thats's all I have). A buddy that did a similar cycle said he took no estrogen blockers at all because the cycle is moderate at best and the win acts as a blocker.

Any input?

since your going to take test you will need clomid.. what test are you taking? i would up the dosage to 500mg a week.. i dont really know if winny counters estrogen but the fact that you have test on your cycle you will need some nova.

I'm doing test c.

I'm taking test c @ 250ml twice a week, so I'm at the 500ml a week.

I would run your Test for 12 weeks 250mg x twice a week. Im not sure if 8 weeks is really long enough.IMO.

I've been doing the 8 week cycles for about a year with 3 week breaks in between cycles. I actually been off and on for 2 years.

then youve never actually come off bro....that means nut suppression, its best to cycle IMO to remind our body what natural homeostasis is all about

So how long of a break should I take off test between cycles?? I thought 2 -3 weeks is good. I also take DHEA which I read also acts as an estrogen blocker. I take DHEA ED (Liquid drops) until I run out and will be off of that for a month or so. I swear, it works for me, I read mixed opinions on DHEA too.

I don't mean to be a pain, just trying to get the correct formula for me and this site has helped a lot!

DHEA actually elevates natural test and estrogen, so its not the best choice for PCT or bridging between cycles anyways, in reality the usual protocal if you are trying to stay healthy and cycle your steroids is time on = time off ....so if you are cycling for the usual 10-12wk period, you'd take the same amount of time off once you have waited for the half-life to end and PCT has been completed, this is what i do, and have managed to maintain my strength and about 80% of my gains...

Bump that. Winny does seem to counter estrogen sides from some research I've done on it. I would keep nolv on side just in case of any signs show up. But like yamahrob said "time on = time off."