depends where you are planning to end your cycle, if you are running winnie alongside injectables then start pct once the active half-life of your injectable is up, ie. 3wks after your last shot of sust and maybe 48hrs after your last shot of winnie or maybe a little less if using orals...

With the test it's 14-16 days, so I will do it then. Thanks rob

I was thinking about doing the winny on week 10-14 of my 12 week cycle. So when I finish the winny, the next day I'd start the PCT.

Sound good?

thats wat i would do...it allows you to remain lean whilst waiting for the long estered test
to finish up.....

I think I got the idea from you a long time ago last year. I think you did something like that. I could be wrong but anyways I will give it a try.

Today is my 6th week of the cycle. I am staying lean but kind of quit gaining wieght for thes last 2 weeks. I am lifting more weight than I ever have and my strength is still going up. I am 13 weeks out of the contest that I am entering so my calorie intake has dropped a little bit. I have dropped my carbs down to around 300 right now and next week I will do 250 by cutting the carbs out at night. At least this cycle will help me keep my muscle while dieting down. I still have the winny to take in a couple of weeks. The only thing is that I am going to travel to a different state while having to take the winny. So I need to smuggle it so to speak in my own states. Sucks!!!

All is well and now it's time to see that muscle that I earned in a more leaned out fashion. Only half way through it. I'll keep you guys posted.

didnt realise you were competing bro, hope all goes well, you'll have to get some pics up so we can see where you are at....the winstrol should help squeeze out some extra water, otherwise prov is great at that, masteron is even better....

I'll take some pics tonight. Is there a certain program I should use to scratch out my face? I've never done it before. Anyways, it will be my first contest. I've done bodybuilding mainly as a hobby but now I want to do a show.

If you have windows use either photo shop or paint either one works great! Taking the step from doing this as a hobby to competing it pretty big bro! Remember when you need motivation or more some one to help kick your ass in gear you have us over here at TW! lol Keep up the great log man looking forward to the progress pictures and hopefully pics from a contest coming in the future!

I wanted to compete last year but I got married and the stress from planning a wedding and trying to diet and prepare for a show was too much for me. So this year I decided this was the year. I will try to use the photo shop and/or paint. Thanks for the help guys. I do appreciate it very much.