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Second Cycle - Looking for input - 10-12-2008

Hey guys I'm just lookin for some input and opinions, so hit me with all you got.

Second cycle, last one which was Deca Sust Anadrol left me 22lbs up which I was quite happy with until I moved and lost most of it since there was no time for up keep. Looking for similar gains here.

So I'm 23, 5'10, 7%BF 150lbs....yeah I'm tiny and want a little more overall size. My plan for this time around is as follows:

D-Bol 287tabs @ 5mg/tab
Sustanon 7ml @ 250mg/ml
Deca 4ml @ 100mg/ml (left over from last cycle)
Equipoise 10ml @ 200mg/ml

So I'm thinking 1ml Eq every 4 days, 1ml Sust every 8 days (with every other eq shot), 20mg d-bol tapering up to 35mg 1/2 way in in a diamond cycle kinda thing.
Then the deca replacing eq for the last 4 shots just to use it up (using it at the end cuz its half life is far longer than eq)
Nolvadex at 10mg a day throughout.


RECOVERY
Day 1 1cc hCG 100mg Clomid
Day 2 100mg Clomid
Day 3 100mg Clomid
Day 4 50mg Clomid
Day 5 50mg Clomid
Day 6 1cc hCG 50mg Clomid
Day 7 50mg Clomid


Thoughts and comments? I'm a real rookie when it comes to this stuff so I want a solid plan before I start pokin.
Thanks

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10-12-2008

Bro that cycle is shit no offence you need at least 500 mg per week of sust shot 3 times a week also decca needs to be done over a 10 week cycle so four mils is usless eq needs to be donwe the same at least 8 to 12weeks at a min 400 mgs per week...you better go back to the drawing board or buy more stuff as this cycle is a waste of time and money...and your pct is a waste also no wonder you lost all your gains if your last pct was as weak as this one bro....you are new and it is good you are asking questions...I would say go into the steroid cycle forums for beginners and pick one and follow it bro..an d then get a good pct from the pct forum and you will be all set
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10-12-2008

Thanks for the input. Thats exactly why I am here.

I basically just went off recommendations I'd read.
First, the Deca is just left over, so I'm only using it to get rid of it. Adding that to the end would just be a complete waste?

I didn't realize how little sust I was taking till i re-read that lol. I only want to do 2 shots a week if I can help it. 500mg twice a week work taking the eq and dbol into the picture?

I'll get some more clomid for PCT but I'm not to worried about it....yeah I'll get yelled at for that line I know. I kept the gains for 4 months after my last cycle, just had no time to keep the strength and size up, too occupied with the move and what not to keep regularly workout routine. But I'll look into it more.

Thanks a lot for the suggestions.
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10-12-2008

ok ya i would buy more sust axio makes a great sustaplex it has 325 mg per ml awsome styff...and they also do eq too....but if you want a wicked mass building cycle buy there decaplex 275 and sust and throw in the dbol lol you will get crazy size bro and also add some nolva to your clomid and you will keep your gains not just for 4 weeks i was your size about 7 years ago maybee longer anyway point is im now 235 pounds solid...listen to the advice bro and you will keep all gains...
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10-12-2008

I actually got the eq from axio, and I was just looking at that exact sust they offer....but theyre sold out
I've got some Nolvadex put away for PCT already (10mg/day). And checking out the forums here and a few other website, I think the PCT I have planned out should be fine. The 'advanced cylce' recommends solely 5000IU hcg. I have half that + clomid, and this cycle is nowhere near as intense lol.

I don't really wanna get massive, just 160-180 at the most, then we'll see after that.

Thanks again
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10-12-2008

ok well if your hell set on using eq i qould def buy more and load up on sust when it comes in....Big emphiseis on WHEN it is inferrierating they have great customer service however no product at the moment anyway bro i wouldnt start till you have enogh eq to erun it 10 weeks at 400 mg per week that is the min reqwuired dose for body building anything less you will most def be pissing your money away
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10-12-2008

Well thats the game plan for now, sit back and wait it out. I was going to wait a few months anyways, I'm doing the P90X thing right now and I'm going to try it a second time with the gear and a regular gym routine on top of it
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10-12-2008

p90 x bro is great for cutting weight..i dodnt like it at alll for gaining weight you wont build mass on it bro..you need alot of heavy lifting and food lmao....diet is the main thing bro
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10-12-2008

DO NOT...I REPEAT..DO NOT use HCG in PCT....HCG will just shut you down. HCG should be used the last 2weeks during cycle and while waiting for long esters to clear system.Stop taking HCG 10 days before starting clomid.If your cycle is lets say 12 weeks...strt hcg week 10-13 500iu e3d and start clomid in week 14..i always wait 18 days for deca or eq before i start pct,but 2weeks is good enough for most. you need to do some more research before you begin sh**.


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10-13-2008

Thanks for your input soldier01. I will certainly look into this much more. This would be my first time takin hcg so I thoroughly appriciate knowing that.
I don't plan on starting this cycle probably till January, I just want a solid plan to follow and its getting better all the time.
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