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Question One last question before my cycle - 09-09-2008

Ok so i got all my gear and i have done a lot of reading on the site so here is what i hae decided to run:

Weeks 1-6: 30mgs ed (throughout the day) Methanoplex
Weeks 1-12: 500mgs ew Sustagen (twice a week injections)
Weeks 1-12: 330mgs ew Equiplex (twice a week injecs as well)
Weeks 1-12: 20mg Nolvadex ed

So i have a few questions about this. First, does equiplex and sustagen need to be injected twice a week or more? Also, i did come across some stanoplex 10mg orals and i was thinking about running 20-30mg ed for weeks 6-12. Is this overboard?, stupid? or should i just wait for a cutting cycle? I have clomid and nolvadex for pct and i want to know if i need other pct elements such as HCG or others. Lastly, with sustagen and equiplex when should my pct begin? 2 weeks after last inject?

thanks for your help. Im really excited and i plan on posting before and after pics.
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That's a good looken cycle. ;p

Run the eq 14 weeks and at 400mg bro(everyone reccomends it at that length and dose) also,do the dbol 40mg ed(you'll thank me and yerself if u do)
You can get away w/ 2x a wk. The sust works great pinnen eod but 2x is fine.make sure to rotate sites so u dnt develope scar tissue(I've just been doen my delts and I think I mite have some now...."gay")
But yeah eod or 2x its really yer call bro.as for the winni you definatley could run it,it is a bit much but not ungodly overboard.
U mite want hcg since its a long cycle but I'm not 100% sure. If u wanna be 100 safe get a lot of nolv,some clomid for pct and some adex or exeplex as an AI incase bad sides flare up.

Recap:
Eq-14weeks 400mg
Sust 15weeks 500mg
Dbol-4weeks 40mg ed
*pin eod or 2x(yer call)
Hcg-optional
Winni-40-50mg ed 5-6 weeks(yer call)
Nolva
Clomid
*exeplex or adex incase of sides.


Dude this will be one sick cycle!!I'm either gonna do this(minus the winni) or test dbol deca and winni for my next cycle.
You'll get great gains,just eateateat and train hard.


Oh yeah start yer winni rouns week 14,so that way when u finish it 4 or 5 weeks later the test will just be clearen out of yer system completly and u can cruise into pct the same week instead of waiten.

Last edited by Boentello : 09-10-2008 at 03:38 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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09-10-2008

Wow man thanks for the info. Ya im pretty stoked on this cycle. I literally cant wait but i wanna get all my gear first. will adex or exeplex help with skin sides cause im slightly prone to acne sides?
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09-10-2008

Personally I wouldnt take the stanoplex, give your liver a break from the orals.

I think HCG is better taken either during cycle (for big cycles) or as needed (to get your balls back to normal) I don't consider it nessessary PCT

PCT should begin 2 -3 weeks after cycle on sus cause of it's half life...


(good info for some of your questions here... Clomid, Nolvadex and HCG in Post Cycle Recovery)
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09-10-2008

I think vitamin d or e will help w/ acne a bit.also pick up a bar of hypoalergenic soap for yer face and if u get body acne pick up a bar of panoxyl soap(stuffs great). Those along w/washen yer sheets and pillow cases at least 1x every 2 weeks will help a lot.
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09-10-2008

Thanks Bravo. I will pick those up. Soo...i was talking to my best friend last night about this cycle and how im super stoked and here is what i dont get. I was telling him how he should do a beginner cycle cause he is playin baseball in the spring and he would be super sick if he did plus hes already like 6 1'/220 and he starts telling me how he heard (from his weed dealer) that steroids mess you up and they are unsafe. Why do the uneducated retards give gear a bad name cause they messed around and took some bunk gear or took them completely wrong. Im a pre med student and have learned about steroids down to the molecular level. Gear can improve your life and well being forever when taken right! O and one thing ive noticed since i have ben a member... you guys are smart. jus about everyone that takes this site seriously has done research and understands the human body pretty well. Way better than someone slangin grass.
O well.
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09-11-2008

yep, i gotta agree. you'd be going from methanoplex to winny w/out a break for your liver. if it were a longer cycle, like 15 wks., that'd be alright then.
and the hcg i would say only at the end of your cycle if your guys have shrunk more than a little.
otherwise, w/ the EQ bumped up, it looks like a cycle w/ great promise. make the most of it bro'.
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09-11-2008

Lol alpha I'm just here to learn and help.

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That's a good looken cycle. ;p

Run the eq 14 weeks and at 400mg bro(everyone reccomends it at that length and dose) also,do the dbol 40mg ed(you'll thank me and yerself if u do)
You can get away w/ 2x a wk. The sust works great pinnen eod but 2x is fine.make sure to rotate sites so u dnt develope scar tissue(I've just been doen my delts and I think I mite have some now...."gay")
But yeah eod or 2x its really yer call bro.as for the winni you definatley could run it,it is a bit much but not ungodly overboard.
U mite want hcg since its a long cycle but I'm not 100% sure. If u wanna be 100 safe get a lot of nolv,some clomid for pct and some adex or exeplex as an AI incase bad sides flare up.

Recap:
Eq-14weeks 400mg
Sust 15weeks 500mg
Dbol-4weeks 40mg ed
*pin eod or 2x(yer call)
Hcg-optional
Winni-40-50mg ed 5-6 weeks(yer call)
Nolva
Clomid
*exeplex or adex incase of sides.


Dude this will be one sick cycle!!I'm either gonna do this(minus the winni) or test dbol deca and winni for my next cycle.
You'll get great gains,just eateateat and train hard.


Oh yeah start yer winni rouns week 14,so that way when u finish it 4 or 5 weeks later the test will just be clearen out of yer system completly and u can cruise into pct the same week instead of waiten.
BOENTELLO-
I Really think you should stop giving advice. I dont understand how you can give so much input and opinions when You are on your First cycle. You may have done Alot of research, YOU HAQVE NO EXPERIENCE. Im not Sure at your AGE you should even be Using steroids. When pretty much everyone on this board told you that you should not use them. I want people to look up to you on here, but leave giving the advice to guys who actually know, Becuase you read, then simply repeat to make yourself sound as an expert. I know you are only like 16.
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09-11-2008

Actualy bro it looks like a pretty good cycle....I have been using the stuff for about 7 years and have done my homework.....Now in my opinion it is a bang on cycle and Bman is right about the cycle...The only thing i would add is i am a fan of front loading the long acting esters to get a higher dose build up in your body...anyway Ya i m not sure really why you attacked him.....but i can say that for being as young as he is he has doen his homework.....And you cant fault a guy for that...you need to slow your roll........

Actualy bro it looks like a pretty good cycle....I have been using the stuff for about 7 years and have done my homework.....Now in my opinion it is a bang on cycle and Bman is right about the cycle...The only thing i would add is i am a fan of front loading the long acting esters to get a higher dose build up in your body...anyway Ya i m not sure really why you attacked him.....but i can say that for being as young as he is he has doen his homework.....And you cant fault a guy for that...you need to slow your roll........For someone with 35 posts i wouldnty be attacking anyone just yet grasshopper lol CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG lol

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