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I went from one Doctor to a new Doctor, each gave me different advice. They are both anti aging doctors. I suppose the reason could be HRT but I'm really not in a situation to need HRT. My test levels were in the normal range and everything in that department is fine. The first doctor said 500mg a week of test 8 weeks, 1000iu of HCG 2 weeks after the test cycle for 10 days ( I WAS on HGH for 2 years too) and I took the anti estrogen 3rd week into the cycle of test. I used that cycle for at least a year. Now the new doc says 500mg of test every other week for 10 weeks , he won't give me the HCG. There's my problem. Between those two doctors and my personal experience with the results and what I research, I gotta put the HCG thing together myself.
I have concluded that HCG should not be needed until the 3rd week after a test cycle.

I have been doing this for years, my only problem is that if I go back to my first doctor I need to buy everything from them and they are very very expensive (this is where the stars go for their stuff) I can't send in a script like my new doctor. If I could get a vial instead of amps I would have no problems with the HCG.

Personally I think 750 a day for 10 days would be fine, I know a guy who never uses it post cycle, I find many opinions on HCG.
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yes there are alot of opinions on it, you got to find out what works for you, what did you go to the doctor for to give him a reason to put you on test if you dont mind me asking?

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The first doctor was just anti-aging, started with HGH and then they discussed test, so, no real reason except anti-aging. I did go to my family practitioner and asked for hgh and test before my first (anti-aging) doctor and he said N-O. As as matter of fact when my family practitioner found out I was taking HGH they dropped me, those guys don't like people that use HGH, there ya go for being honest. My personal reason was to make some gains and back into shape. I've done some film work and gained weight for a movie we did (pizza and beer). When I went to get back in shape it was taking a long time. So I basically just wanted to get in the best physical condition I could in a minimal amount of time.
As for the second doctor, I just told (2nd anti-aging doctor) him what the first doctor did and showed him the prescriptions I had from the first, but he will not give me HCG .
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The first doctor was just anti-aging, started with HGH and then they discussed test, so, no real reason except anti-aging. I did go to my family practitioner and asked for hgh and test before my first (anti-aging) doctor and he said N-O. As as matter of fact when my family practitioner found out I was taking HGH they dropped me, those guys don't like people that use HGH, there ya go for being honest. My personal reason was to make some gains and back into shape. I've done some film work and gained weight for a movie we did (pizza and beer). When I went to get back in shape it was taking a long time. So I basically just wanted to get in the best physical condition I could in a minimal amount of time.
As for the second doctor, I just told (2nd anti-aging doctor) him what the first doctor did and showed him the prescriptions I had from the first, but he will not give me HCG .

ok, well if you want to gain some muscle mass, 250mg/week will yeild you very small gains, and for hcg thats over doing it, I do at least 1000mgs/week of test andI only need hcg at 500iu 2x/week, thats all the hcg you will need, with a small amount of test that your taking you should not need hcg through your cycle. as for your concern for acne there are some meds out there that can combat that..(accutane).

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I'm actually taking 500mg a week of test, I TRIED 250 twice a week. I am making decent gains on the 500mg a week. I did one cycle of 750mg a week, didn't see a difference. I don't want to get freaky huge fast. I just want to be in above average shape for my age. I am in better shape than friends 5 - 10 years younger than me, and most work out too. I took a couple cycles of Dianobol about 20 years ago and I got big FAST! Problem was I didn't know what I was doing and got a little fat after the last cycle, then I did phen and got back to normal. So I do have an idea of what I want.

Thanks for all your input
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I'm actually taking 500mg a week of test, I TRIED 250 twice a week. I am making decent gains on the 500mg a week. I did one cycle of 750mg a week, didn't see a difference. I don't want to get freaky huge fast. I just want to be in above average shape for my age. I am in better shape than friends 5 - 10 years younger than me, and most work out too. I took a couple cycles of Dianobol about 20 years ago and I got big FAST! Problem was I didn't know what I was doing and got a little fat after the last cycle, then I did phen and got back to normal. So I do have an idea of what I want.

Thanks for all your input

if your doing 500mgs/week, then do 250mgs 2x/week, thats 2 injects a week @ 250mgs, that will keep your blood levels steady and your gains will be better as well as less sides, too much up and down with blood levels is not good.

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Thanks REX.. I did try the 250 twice a week but ran into a little problem; hit a vein and got swollen. So I thought I'd give it a break and go back to the 500 once a week. I had thought about going back to the 250 twice a week, I might again.
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