Hi all , well im planning on starting my cycle next week, i couldnt get hold of any primobol and to be honest 400mg a week costs a bomb anyway so ill wait till next cycle to use that and save abit of cash

This is only my 3rd cycle, my first was oral dbol only , 2nd was dbol sust and decca.

This time round im gonna use

Test e @ 500mg week 1 - 10
Dbol @ 40mg ED week 1 - 4
Stanoplex @ 50mg ED week 6 - 10

im going to use 10mg of nolva ED also just because im cautious.
im also going to use Proviraplex @ 25mg ED also because ive read it will keep the water down and give me a more defined look.

For PCT ...

Nolva @ 20mg ED week 13-16
Clomid @ 300mg ED week 13
Clomid @100mg ED Week 14
Clomid @ 50mg ED Week 15 - 16


im 25 currently 5' 5 and weigh 182 lbs
im after trying to get a nice lean size with this cycle not really bothered about putting on huge gains even though it would be a nice bonus more interested in lean muscle mass and getting my definition out abit more as im struggling like hell to get those bottom abs showing ... lol managed the top 4 but bottom 2 are a nightmare hahaha

what do you guys think to the cycle ? good results from that ?

thanks

Robbie

doesnt look too bad my opinion, it looks like a lot of orals pretty close together. maybe run test for 12 weeks and dont start the winny till week 8.

bro', don't use the clomid at 300 mg/wk.
that's way too much!

day 1, 300 mg.
days 2-7 150 mg.
days 8-14 100 mg.
days 15-21 50 mg.

your orals are too close together.
start the winny week 7 and run it right up until you start pct.
start pct two weeks after last pin.
that should be about 5 weeks of winny.
it's an oral and will clear your system quickly.

hope this helps.

bump bump............

thanks for the replies bro's , all feedback has been taken on board and ive adjusted the cycle to suit

Well im 3 weeks into my cycle now, i decided to drop the d-bol alltogethor as i didnt want to water bloat from them plus i decided if i dropped the d-bol my body would thank me abit more and be abit better prepared for the winstrol tabs.
ive just finished my monday training , i did chest and biceps with a 10 minute jog to warm up and 10 minute bag session at the end, so far my weight is up by about 8lbs and im lifting 10kg more on chest press then i was before the cycle, im going to start taking the winny tabs at week 6 until week 10 , would 4 weeks be enough or would 6 weeks be better?

im quite happy with my size at moment but i just want to be more defined, i really struggle with dieting though , although i only eat wholemeal bread , rice, pasta ect i also eat alot of chicken and alot of fruit and veg i just cant seem to get any definition.
would the winny help me achieve this ?

ill try and upload a pic in a min

Robbie

heres me at week 1 of cycle, as you can see im not that defined.

Robbie

i see the potential in your body shape defo.....but i think you should concern yourself with gaining a bit more lean mass, and just keep the cardio going to stay healthy and maintain a reasonably lean build, dont worry too much about your abs, keep training em but dont go over board, once you are up another 10lbs then get healthy and cut it back.....then you'll have some better visable gains....everyone wants abs, but in reality for the majority of us to gain well we need to eat, and eatin that much usually means loosing the definition.

sounds like you are making great progress Robbie. i agree w/ your decision to drop the d-bol. yeah, the winny will lean you out. what kind of test did you say you are using? looking forward to updated pics.

thanks for the encouragement and advice Rob as always its very much valued and appriciated, im hoping that in the next 2 weeks my test e cycle should pick up (week 4 and 5) then hopefully ill be able to get abit more lean mass added to myself,
im using privoplex in this cycle and never used this oral before ... does it make much difference to the overall amount of lean gains you get from a cycle ?
also in your opinion rob should i stick with the winny tabs or maybe run t-bol for the last 5 weeks of my course and save the winny tabs for next time ?

again thanks for your advice

Thanks for the good words of encouragement , the test e im using is 1ml/250mg glass ampules , im not sure if i can post the manufactors details so ive pm'ed ya

Robbie