i have decided to go with a more cutting based cycle and stay on the weight gainer protien for mass. i would like to go with anavar 30mg/day and stanozolol(oral)40mg/day stacked for about 40 days. i chose these two because there are no aromatizing effects after thier cycle ends which helps keep the look you gain aparantly from what i read. this way no pct would be necessary in addition to injection which i am not a huge fan of. what do u guys think of this idea?

honest...horrible??? not wort it my friend...oral only is normally a waste unless used to cut along-side clen or t3 etc. the only orals id ever recommend are anavar at 50-70mg ed or t-bol at 50-mg ed for up to 6-8wks....if you are testing the water, but if you are planning to save your liver and take the plunge, do it correctly and research...use test as your base...you'll read that time and time again because it true...

what can suggest for something that will cut me up and then add a little mass i don't wanna be hulking out of my clothes but i wanna be noticably bigger...

or how do u feel about a deca base?

deca as a base...not a good idea bro. It will shut you down hard.. no offense bro but i think you need a liitle more research before you start introducing chemicals into your body..reasearch and be safe..

Getting your diet in check will do that, Please read and understand what you are doing and putting into your body bro, you need to know why testosterone NEEDS to be the base of a cycle, they're is no substitutions. Also if you just want to get "noticeably bigger" then maybe steroids aren't for you, they aren't a bandage for poor training and diet man...

Also if you just want to get "noticeably bigger" then maybe steroids aren't for you, they aren't a bandage for poor training and diet man...[/quote]

BUMP!!!

i have the regiment.i eat very clean...just not genetically inclined so to speak. i do the protien shakes and have a strict work out schedule. i am looking for an extra push. i feel like im gettin bashed here guys..im just putting it out there. the last kid i had suggest shit had me all messed up. im looking for advice. what would u recommed with a sustanon base. i believe that's a five test mixture. of if not what kind of a test base? and would just a nice bi weekly dose of that do it or would it need a stack with something else? also i would need so advice on a pct. i was thinking Clomiphene if i were to use a test base.

know one is flaming you here, but alot of the guys who come here and ask for advice are already armed with more knowledge than you, thats what the sticky's are for, you cant just expect a mod or another member to jump in and solve every problem you think you have, especially when you are questioning the advice you do get...

forget the attractivness of " 5 blends of test " its more of a marketing aid...its no better than enanthate IMO, you'll see effects a little sooner with sust because of the prop mix, however in the long run you are actually ending up with less test in your system due to the unstable ester release rates...enanthate ensures you get what you are giving....

if you are looking for lean mass.....maybe test and eq or test with an oral like winstrol...
but before you jump in the deep end, read a few more posts and come back to us, be sure you are ready to take the plunge bro...remember there are all sorts of supplements and pro-hormones available....

but diet and training are key no matter what gear you use....

this won't be my first time using. the first time i used i broke out real bad. i was on test decca and a shit load of d bol. it was not pretty. im trying to avoid that from happening. i also used nolvadex as pct. i am willing to do this to get sick results. i have very recently tried t bomb and it's just nothing compared to that. my only issue is the acne. is there any way to help ward it off. if test e is the way to go can u suggest something to help prevent the acne, and a proper pct.