Well I decided to start a cycle log...Yesterday I broke the ice and injected for the first time and I have to say it was quite painless. I decided to go with 25G 1" 3ml syringes for quad injections and possibly delts if I need another spot. Here is my cycle:

Weeks
1-12 Test E250 on thursdays and mondays
1-4 Dbol 40mg ed
9-14 Winnie EOD injections 50ml
9-14 winnie EOD oral 50mg (alternate days to the injects)
1-14 Arimidex EOD .5mg

PCT Nolva and Clomid

I am 6'2.5" and starting weight of 238lbs with body fat a little higher than I would have like to start at but I`m not sure what it is I did take pics though for comparisson later. I have a meeting at work I wil come back on and update some more. I love AXIO!

First off, props to you bro, this is a very nice cycle. It looks like you have done your homework bro. I do have a few suggestions for you though, if you do not mind. First off I suggest you read up on half lives of AAS, SERMS and AI's etc and understand why they are important.

For instance the half life of orally available winny is only 9 hours, this should tell you that it needs to be dose ed....same with injectable winny. Although the half life is longer than the oral version, inject winny still only has about a 24hr half life, so it should be dosed ED also.. .Now, 9 hours is moderately long compared to other orals (eg, d-bol 4-5 hours, t-bol(plex) 8 hours etc)....this simply means that by the 9 hour mark the winny will have lost half of it's potency, hence lower blood levels...even with a 9 hour half life though i feel it is really unnecessary to split up the dose because nine hours will be enough time for winny to do it's job for the day...others may choose to split the doses and yes there are benefits too doing this but I find greater benefits by running my orals, full dose once daily..to me you have injectable test that maintains it's blood stability, why not use the orals as a pre-workout supp that will will increase strength, pumps and anabolism at most important time of the day.

What I do is take my whole daily dosage 2 hours before my workout...this way i get painful pumps and great strength increases..much better results than just taking half the dose in the morning and 20mg pre-workout..get it?? That's just for starters.

Listen to this: "dianabol is an orally applicable steroid with a great effect on the protein metabolism. The effect of Dianabol promotes protein synthesis, thus it supports the buildup of protein. This effect manifests itself in a positive nitrogen balance and an improved wellbeing." (profile clip borrowed from genxxl) So taking this into account when do you think a daily dose of d-bol would be most effectively used?? My opinion, 1-2 hours pre-workout...by the time you start training and are already anabolic, take advantage of it and drink a highly glycemic carb drink with whey protein or BCAAs or any combinations of aminos that you like...the bodies most anabolic time is during the workout and post workout.

Combining the consumption of proper nutrition at the body's most anabolic time of the day coupled with Dianabol's promotion of protein synthesis, thus supporting the buildup of protein. Here is a quick breakdown of what is happening.....while you are training you are increasing GH (nice levels naturally, you increase insulin (the craziest hormone for mass) with the hyperglycemic carb drink- (i use powdered gatorade, contains dextrose, tastes great and costs a whole lot less then inferior carb drinks)-add all this to a full dose of d-bol, working in synergy with GH and insulin to build some serious ass muscle....

....now, tell me would you want to have ONLY half of your daily dose of d-bol in your blood stream, at the most important (anabolic) time of the day?? Also keep in mind that there is- although highly debated- an anabolic window of time post training....this is the time that your body will utilize carbs (to replenish glycogen) and protein like no other time of the day....so if you use half your dose pre workout, then again you benefiting less from the lower dosage....sure you will get some benefits with the other half a dose later in the day, but it will be at a time that the body is at a much lower anabolic state than pre-during-post wkout.....

But for some, they swear by the benefits of dosing a 2 or more times per day in an effort to keep blood levels stable, which to be frank is a pain in the ass.. To keep blood levels stable, you would need to take a dose around the clock according the drug's half lives. Wanna set your alarm for 3am to take 10mg of d-bol??

IMO why chase the half life when you can get far better results taking d-bol as pre-workout supplement. This why i believe that oral AAS with moderate to short half lives are most effective when taken at full dose to get the best performance benefits: power, strength, endurance at the most anabolic time of the day....not to mention the synergistic effect of natural GH (from hard training), the anabolic madness of Insulin (from your carb supp), and the increased protein synthesis caused from D-bol and a whole lot of amino acids..and other supps such as creatine...

So with all that said, here is my current protocol for pre-during-post workout based on my stats: 245lbs, 6'0, 13% BF:

90-120min pre-workout : 25mg/d-bol, 25mg/anadrol (new combo i am trying)
45mins pre-workout: 60grams of whey protein/1 scoop of Horsepower (Ultimate Nutrition, combination of Aminos, NOX blend, creatine blend, glutamine and other goodies)
Workout: 75grams of carbs from powdered Gatorade
5-10mins post-workout: 75grams of carbs from powdered Gatorade, 1 scoop of Horsepower.
15 minutes later: 60grams of Whey protein

Ok so now that i babbled all that out.....lol...your cycle will be perfect if you run the winny ed. Lastly these are just my opinions based on my research and experience so far. So if you have great success breaking your daily dosages up then that is great, but if you want to try something different give this a shot.

Thanks for the reply, I am injecting EOD 50ml and taking 50mg orally on alternating days so the dose is ed. Thanks for all teh advice I spread the dbols out today so we'll see how that goes. I have been eating a ton today:

breakfast:
5 eggs scrambled
5 breakfast sausages
2 pieces brown toast no butter
1 large glass of 1% milk

snack #1
protein bar(320cals)
small can v-go tomoatoe juice
bottle of water

lunch
2 tuna sanwhiches with a small amount of light mayo on brown bread
bottle of water

snack #2
protein bar (320 cals)
v-go juice
beef jerkey (80 cals)
bottle of water

snack #3
2 oranges
bottle of water

I will be home for supper in 2 and half hours am I getting enough cals? I am trying hard to get alot of cals and lots of protein.

I have already notcied a subtantial increase in strength. I have not done squats over 225 in a few years. Last night I hit some really good sets starting at 225 and ending at 8 reps at 315 which is nice. So my leg power is definitely there and i look forward to getting that back to 400 in the next few leg workouts.

Started with the same breakfast as yesterday, feel like im eating all of the time but thats ok.

I have scheduled 5 days on 1 day off for working out and the more i read this is making me think I need to re-do this.
I have 5 seperate workouts once a week
1-Arms
2-Legs
3-Chest
4-Back &Abs
5-shoulders

Will this be efficient? or should I roll some of these together?

Great Back workout today feeling huge, yesterdays chest workout was also intense. I have already gained 11lbs and am upto 249lbs an all time high for me I`m sure that there is some bloat but I dont feel that bloated. I am injecting my second dose of Test E tomorrow morning I am kinda looking forward to it lol.
I am eating pretty much as much as I can and I think my calorie intake is fat 20% protein and carbs 40% each. Trying to stay as close as I can to that and I think I`m taking in 4500-5000 calories a day which means I basically eat all the time lol.

Gustavo77, nice fresh way of dosing orals AAS versus the analytical approach. I'll keep this on the backburner for the future.

Can this approach be used with long esters timed with when someone should hit their weaker bodyparts? i.e. Hitting legs closer to an injection day and 7 days later hitting the stronger body parts..will the extra AAS in the blood stream promote more growth for the weaker bodyparts? Or does it not matter much for long esters. Assuming one is pinning 1x a week.

redz, nice strength increases. Good work bro. Keep hitting it hard. I'll look forward to reading this thread.

Thanks....as to your question, i do not see why this would not work to bring up a lagging bodypart. The increased protein synthesis with d-bol during that critical workout/post-workout time will definitely aid growth in the muscle trained that day....

Nice gains redz, keep up the good work!

Injection went smoother than before as I was able to get all of the air out of the syringe before injecting so that was nice. I injected my left quad and have to say I`m loving the quad injections. Really good back workout yesterday and left teh ab workout out and will do it today with shoulders. I know that may be a weird split but I think it works for me. The dbol is giving some incredible pumps, I feel like a tank a few days in and the real gear effect is still a few weeks off I don`t know what to expect once that kicks in. Tomorrow is a day off and I am already wishing I didnt have to take it off but I know its for the best I`ll still do a bit of cardio.