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Looking for advice... - 02-20-2008

I am planning on running my first cycle (oral only) in the next couple of weeks. I am trying to figure out the best way to run the cycle to optimize my results and more importantly, keep my gains/strength.

I am looking to gain LBM, reduce BF % and retain as little wated as possible. The other important factor is keeping the sides to a minimum. I am aware of the liver risks associated with an oral cycle and I am prepared with Liv 52 and milk thistle.

I currently take the following supps:
ALA, ZMA, Tribulus, Glutamine, Glucosamine, V-C, B12 7 B-complex (liquid) & Omega 3-6-9.

My diet is definitely in check. I consume approx 150-200 g's of protein from shakes and solid foods daily with low amounts of fat, sugars and carbs.

I hit the gym 5 times a week and play ice hockey 2-3 times a week.

Here is what I am thinking and I am open to positive feedback and suggestions:

6 Week Cycle
Week 1 thru 6: 50 mg's Anavar ED
Week 1 & 2: 30 mg's t-bol ED
Week 2-6: 50 mg's t-bol ED
Week 7 & 8: 50 mg's clomid for pct ED

Any advice....?
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02-21-2008

I'm really not a big fan of oral only cycles, but I got to admit, yours look fairly good. Side effects should be minimum and same with liver toxicity. good luck.
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sounds good - 02-21-2008

i have had the turnaplex by itself and it was great i would start two week before the cycle with the liv-52 and the milk thistle just to get your liver up to par. You should be very impressed with the results. Keep us posted on the progress


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02-21-2008

Thank you for your advice. I will be sure to start the liver protection well in advance of the cycle.

I will be sure to keep a log of everything when I start. I have all my gear in hand but I might wait until early April to begin my cycle as life is a bit hectic right now with a new baby and stuff. I want to do this right and get the most out of my cycle.
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02-21-2008

Just curious. Why orals only? What are your physical stats? Have you researched into an oral only cycle. I wouldn't even consider orals only being a cycle. Just trying to help bro.
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well .... - 02-21-2008

Well, I am not interested in huge gains and pinning so I decided to do an oral only cycle. I play hockey as mentioned so for me to bulk up too much will be a detrement to my game. I am seeking lbm, strength and fat loss.

I have done tons of research on orals and I was always set on var but decided to add t-bol to get a bit of lbm without too much water retention or sides.

I am currently 5'9 and 195 lbs. Train 5 days a week, play hockey 2-3 times a week and my diet is in check.

I really don't understand why so many guys on here (and other boards) knock oral cycles. So what it if doesn't produce the same massive results as pinning test or others aas .. that's not what I'm looking for at the moment. It's my first cycle so I have time to "grow into" pinning if I so choose down the road.
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02-21-2008

Just not a good idea. We aren't telling you don't do it we just don't think it is going to optimize your results. As far as test goes. You can just do an every other day prop. 100mg. Water retention won't be a major factor.
You are obviously a smart individual, but to get gains an oral only cycle is very hard to keep gains.
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02-22-2008

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Originally Posted by Coolcanuck79 View Post
Well, I am not interested in huge gains and pinning so I decided to do an oral only cycle. I play hockey as mentioned so for me to bulk up too much will be a detrement to my game. I am seeking lbm, strength and fat loss.

I have done tons of research on orals and I was always set on var but decided to add t-bol to get a bit of lbm without too much water retention or sides.

I am currently 5'9 and 195 lbs. Train 5 days a week, play hockey 2-3 times a week and my diet is in check.

I really don't understand why so many guys on here (and other boards) knock oral cycles. So what it if doesn't produce the same massive results as pinning test or others aas .. that's not what I'm looking for at the moment. It's my first cycle so I have time to "grow into" pinning if I so choose down the road.
Orals cycles pretty much suck for every situation but yours Usually, people want maximum gains/strength blabla..... Orals aren't permanent good gains. In your case, you want small lean gains, don't care to much about extra ton of strength. Anavar and tbols will get you there. Nothing crazy, but good solid lean gains. You will be happy but other people wouldn't be.
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