new routine for strength and hypertrophy.....

incline bench 10,8,6,
flat bench 12,10,8,6
crossovers 15,12,10 or flys......

db shoulder press 12,10,8 or military press
db laterals 10,10 or upright rows.......
db curls 10,10,8 or bb curls...... ----drop on last set

day off

bentover rows 12,10,8,6
close grip pulldowns 12,10,8
deadlifts 12,10,10,8,4

french press 12,10,6---4 drop
weighted sit ups 20,20,20

day off

squats 12,10,8,6,3
leg extensions 10,10,10
leg curls 10,10,10
calf raises 15,12,10,8

weighted crunch 20,20,20

day off

repeat first workout.....

will squeeze cardio in and around......

this should see me through my first phase of training then switch it around and move into a 4day split.....

what do you guys think?

are you pumps getting to much with the gear. I see your leg workout and it is intense i don't use any gear and my pump hurts? You should post some before and after pics. I like the routine good recovery time before reusing key musles to do other lifts.

i have had good pumps this week and i feel stronger...but i honestly think thats because im carbing up and eating a shit load....i must admit i have been feeling pretty good this week aswell.....which has all helped my concentration and energy levels....normally i would concern myself with trying to stay lean but i have decided if i wanna get big im gonna have to eat and not worry too much about loosing some cuts.....il get cut naturally as i go......im not expecting to see much for the first four weeks.....but it should kick in then and once i throw in the winnie il clean my diet right up to take advantage of the muscle hardening etc. then i should see a quick change...il prob throw in some orals to kickstart next time if the cycle pans out....

www.steroid.com/workout.php

I like your cycle yamaharob. I would like to know the results on paper and graphical ( I mean pics )

il let you know how im getting on as i see the changes....the post will get old fast if i try to update daily...all i can say as of today is how good i have felt in general all week......and how fukd i feel now after the workout i had earlier - leg day????

i have been eating like a muvva to kick start the gains but def plan to lean up come mid cycle ready for the beach weather.....im looking forward to throwing in the winnie but i have a while to go yet, that should be interesting.....

have noticed some spots but nothing abnormal really just more noticable to me, but then im looking anyway....

i will post those pics at some point...

so im a week in...did my second jab today which hurt a bit more than before but i think thats because i didn't switch pins like i did before...i will next time....as i think it makes a big difference......i can feel the pain only 30mins after where as it took a day or so last time....i noticed a small amount of disscharge from the injection but hardly any...still it was my second and i should be more ready next time around....

i have noticed im filling out and feeling firmer but i still weigh the same....getting a good pump in the gym, i look huge when im done...love it!!!! other than that nothing much too report....felt good all week...so far so good providing all is ok with my last jab......

Interesting cycle.

I am considering a second cycle. It would include Andropen 275 1cc every 3 days, 20ccs total, matched with 20mg of Nolva per day throughout the cycle and post cycle. Then clomid therapy coupled with HCG over the last three weeks of the post cycle. Also I had considered a one month cycle of IGF starting the last week of post-cycle therapy.

I have been hesitent to cycle again. I did this last summer but took 1cc of andropen per week at a total of 9ccs. With clomid therapy for post-cycle. The comedown was terrible. I went from 177 pre-cycle to 205 peak, and now am at 190. I'm looking for some way to keep more weight, and also to ease the pain of post-cycle recovery.

Does anyone have any suggestions. Please share.

so its the day after my second jab....didin't get a very good nights sleep last night, and when i did wake up im feelinga bit shit.....aching all over and actually feel like im coming down with flu....which could be the test.....im gonna use some glutmine and see if i can give the immune system a boost!!! i plan to workout later but dont know how effective its gonna be...but il give it 100% anyway......i think this could be a side as a result of using the test.e........il keep you posted.......has anyone experienced test flu before?

Rob,
Thanks for posting your experiences with this cycle. I haven't started mine yet...I just had a slight injury setback and I want to wait until I am at 100% before I start. I am new, so I can't help with any of your questions, but I am learning a lot from reading your posts and will look to your experiences when I start. Thanks again Rob, this is helping me to know what to look for when I do start mine.

so anyway my ass was hurting really bad throughout the night and i didn't get a good nights sleep AGAIN.....however after my workout and sauna with some decent healthy food i feel fine again, i am using paracetemol and glutamine to ward off any flu or pain like symptons.......and it seems to be working.....i have noticed my pumps are getting better and more solid...they last longer......my arm thickness has increased a little im at about 17" now.....im enjoying it so far, but no drastic changes to report....
the only thing i dont like is the flu symptons first thing in the mornings, the restless nights of recent and sore injection pains...that only lasts about a day anyway...so its not too bad!!

i can def feel something happening inside me.....time will tell.