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First Cycle - I Think This Is Where I Need To Post - 03-11-2008

Hello Bro's,

I have been lifting off/on for 11 months (2-3 times a week). I am 42 years old. I weigh in at 220 lbs. My height is 5'11". My BF is 22%, mostly in the waist. I currently bench-press 250lbs, and that is with total control not flopping around on the bench. I don't really know how much my squat is, but fully understand the importance of this exercise (i.e. activating the pituitary gland, natural testosterone). I need some squat advice, and I think it would be safe to say, start from the beginning here. I actually had to see a chiropractor - Haha...but not really, it hurt. However, I am healthy in that area now.

Mesomorph:
-large chest
-long torso
-solid muscle structure
-great strength


I have just started a new eating program, though I could use some advice in this area. I am actually on the last week of a total cleansing body flush; just to start with a clean slate. I currently take Wheybolic Extreme 60 (60 grams of protein per shake). I have been taking natural Tribulis 1000mg per tablet (1-2 per day), and the recommended doses of CE2 Ethyl-Ester HCL Creatine tablets.

Keep in mind I have never did gear before. This is my first cycle ever, but excited to get started the right way. As I said I weigh 220 and I would like to try and stay around that weight, but I have a gut to lose (waist 40" took the guess work out an actually measured). I am not fat in my thighs, calves, and butt. I am not fat in my arms or chest. Just my stomach area. My objective is to gain muscle mass and lose fat in the waist area.

Here's what I got on order and would like to know a good cycle for what I have, or should I bump anything and/or should dump anything. I know this may be over- kill, but I am getting enough gear for two cycles and a 6-8 week PCT, twice over. That way I don't have to wait for lagging gear shipments. If possible I would appreciate a dosage chart using the gear below.

Heres what I got:

Decaplex 275 - 2 ea. x 10ml bottles (275mg/ml) How much dosage in first cycle and then second cycle?
Testaplex E 250 - 2 ea. x 10ml bottles (250mg/ml) How much dosage in first cycle and then second cycle?
Turanaplex - 2 x 100 tabs (10mg per tab) Should I wait until second cycle for using this?
Clenbuterol - 2 x 100 tabs (40 mcg per tab) How much dosage in first cycle and/or second cycle?
Clomiplex - 2 x 20 tabs (50mg per tab) How much dosage for first and second PCT?

Also, keep in mind I have the Clenbuterol to help burn the waistline. I also know I will have to workout hard on abs, cardio, and diet!!!

I know this is a lot of information to process, but I figure this is the best place and the best people to help me figure all this out... Okay, so there you have it. I really appreciate the advice. Heck, this could be fun for somebody who likes doing scheduling charts!!!

Anyway,

Thanks Bro's

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03-11-2008

You need more Test for your cycle, also you realise test prop needs to be injected daily or every other day right? Test Enthanate or cyponate is a much better choice for those not familiar or atleast a bit used to needles.
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well - 03-11-2008

you cycle looks good however I would lose the T3 that stuff is narly as far as the fat loss i would diet first before the cycle. your BF% is pretty high i would get it it down to the low 20percentile range. I can set you up on a diet and cardio plan that you could achieve that percentile in about 3-4 months. It would be hard however. with your body fat being that high your colestral is probalby very high and these compounds can have a profound effect on your LDL\HDL count. Just my opionions but it is your body and you need to becareful these are very powerful compounds with grave prices to pay when used imporperly.


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03-11-2008

Redz, how much more would you recommend? I am looking at a 10 to 12 week cycle.

Also, I was concerned about the side effects using the other types of Testa. This type seemed to be cleaner in the reviews.

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TriGenetics, okay send me your cardio and diet plan. I'll bump the T3. However, narly in what way? Also is there something I could safely stack for the LDL\HDL issue?

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okay - 03-11-2008

i didn't mean bump the dose i meant to not use the T3


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03-11-2008

Okay gotcha, dump not bump the T3... LOL

T3 is narly in what way?
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Okay gotcha, dump not bump the T3... LOL

T3 is narly in what way?
here is a little read on T3

Cytomel T3


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03-12-2008

Thats what I read before, and that's why I thought it would be good to burn the waistline fat cells. Yes or No? I could be wrong here, but what did you particularly see wrong with T3. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Thats what I read before, and that's why I thought it would be good to burn the waistline fat cells. Yes or No? I could be wrong here, but what did you particularly see wrong with T3. Maybe I'm missing something.
Ok man first off as redz said you should get some test in the cycle, you have all long esters so Test E or C would be preferable especially since its your first cycle, i would also dump the Trinaplex, Tren is a harsh compound and is NOT recommended for a first cycle no matter the circumstances! T3 should be dumped as well, A good diet and Clen will be preferable over taking T3.

AS far as you question on dosages, while I feel its best that one should use Test only as a first cycle you can use the Deca as well. So an example would be:
weeks
1-12(or 14) Test E or C at 400-500mg,(200-250mg shot every 4 days)
1-10(12) Deca at 400mg (200mg shot ever 4 days)
14&15 Nolva at 40mg every day
16&17 Nolva 20mg ED

I put Nolva on there since Nolva is shown to help restore natural testosterone production easier then Clomid, if you use Clomid it would be 3 weeks of PCT with a 100/50/25 dosing split.

Clen is a different story what you want to do is a 2week on/2 week off spit with Clen, the first 2 weeks what your going to do is access your tolerance but starting of at .20mcg yes MCG not MG and work your way up in .20mcg until you reach a point where you cant take the sides anymore then you will back down your dose by .20mcg and that will be the dose you will use for the remainder of your Clen cycle. Make sure to only do 2weeks on then take 2 weeks off as your receptors will down grade if you take it any longer without time off.

Just Remember that DIET >gear


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