im lookin into either deca or tren for my next cycle.
is one preferred over the other???
i hear on the deca that you gain fat as well?? fact or fiction?

different compounds for different things bro....both are versatile but oneis much harsher than the other, both will shut you down hard....whats your aim with this cycle?

Please list the compound/s you plan to run along with Deca or Tren. Or are you considering just running deca or tren alone?

i'll run the 500mg of test E a week with it of course!!
im really not sure which way to do it!!!
should i bulk first then cut or cut first then bulk???
i probably got about 30lbs of fat to cut as i stand(no six pack here lol)
blood pressure was an issue before with the dbol so are one of these 2 hard on that as well???

30lbs of fat to cut?? thats alot of cutting bro...in your case I would cut first, get to your goal, then start packing on LEAN mass.

Rex

prob is ive never been lean in my life!!! never have i seen my abs lol
im built like a football player not a bodybuilder lol
i have lots of muscle just never been ripped lol
so for either what is a standard cycle???

500+mg of test e as a base
and not sure what to run the tren e or deca at???

there is no standard cycle, each cycle is made to fit the persons goals...is this your first cycle?

Rex

Currently Im On My 4th Week Of Dbol(50mg Ed) And 4th Week Of Test E At 500mg Ew.

Im Just Lookin Ahead To Get Info And Order For My Next Cycle!!!

If you want cycle Tren, let Rex give you mine cycle.

basicly, i'm running turinaplex 50mg/ed

trenaplexE200 200Mg/e3d

prop-test 50mg/eod...

my BF descrease to 15% to 11.5 in 3 week running with protein diet.

and i've gain in same time 8 lbs of good solid muscle...

How i feel... i feel: "Hell yeah!!!!"

Never strong than i'm curently by now.

after cycling auxiliary 3 week in july i will run with Mastaplex 200 EOD.

Every-body in body-center-gym said :"this guy in on stero" of corse, it is visible...

By the way, deca or tren... they are different, so differents...

So if you are newbie, cycling testo and deca, every shown a well grow of good mass, and keep gain for 80%.

And this cycle is very easy.

More you are advenced more you have to study you're cycle.

In anycase, you have to cycle for the goal you are looking for.

Mass, lean mass, hard look with solid gains... etcaetera...

For me, i just use deca for that it's basicly made : help my joint, tendons, and drive energy for grow of muscle.

But i'm to advenced to run a total cycle of deca. i prefer primo or like i've said mastaplex200.

A normal cycle of deca it's over 10-12 week... with 10 week at least, and also, like every one know, testo is the siamase-broterhood of deca.

Other point why did use D-bols with testo? d-bols it's a testo-derivate... So saying that, it mean than you have cycled oral and inject testo... in my eyes, it's a strange cycle bro!

Take patience, talk alot with these good fellas, major parts are already mods, so it's easy to find them, and more important, they take the time to give a real good idea of the best way to reach your final objectiv.

My experience in this point in a good exemple, for more of a week, Rex have reseach the best way for me to cycle tren, wich tren, how, how-long, how-mush, and wath auxiliary to take with.

So by my self, my recommandation is, trust in them bro.