Hey guys,
so i just started my first cycle 2 weeks ago tom.
im just now reall starting to feel a difference. I can't get out of my skin. very anxious and hungry like a horse.

1 cc of test E 250 (once a week)
1 cc of EQ 200 (once a week)

20 mg of anavar per day
50 mg of winstrol per day
50 mg of proviron per day

i'm also taking liv.52 for my liver

so until the start of the second week i didnt really notice anything. ive been feeling a lot anxious now and when im in the gym i feel good but when im not i feel a lil weak. is this normal? i think its mostly the EQ making me hungry as fuck and if i dont eat it hurts. lol and i feel the test killing my balls. lol i think this is all normal.

also how long til i really feel a good push and good change in size?? how mch weight is normal to gain on a cycle like this. is it normal that i didnt feel anyhing for so long?

I'm gonna come off the cycle with nolvodox,clomid and hcg



any suggestions would be good.

keep us posted. I was planning on a very similar cycle along with conservative dosages such as yours.

i will definately keep you guys posted. tom i will take my 3rd injection of test and eq.

so far im up 6 pounds. i dont notice such a difference but everyone around me does. biggest thing for me is my stomach hurts unless i really eat a rediculous amount and i get weak. i hope this is all normal and eventual my stomach will feel fine.

hopefully ill be throwing up some weigh this week

oh by the way I'm 5'6 161 pounds

please give me suggestions on any way to make this cycle work to the fullest and with the smallest side effects

thanks

Your EQ needs to be run at at least 400mg/wk for up to 15wks to notice a real change bro, i have experience with these compound and i ran a similar first cycle and regretted it....
Test is okay at a low dose but it isn't gonna increase your size much if at all....orals need to be run at 50mg ed > these are optimal dosing, not high but just enougth....

I think the effects youare feelin now are placebo, EQ takes at least 3-4wks to pool up and startworkingn your blood, i can however vouch for your feelings of hunger and anxiety, ut they will become more prominent later in your cycle bro, not 2wks in.....

As for feeling weak now, you might be over-doing it as you have more mental drive, that can burn you out before the gear hasa chance to kick in....

id prefer to see:

Test.E. @ 500mg/wks 1-13
EQ @ 400mg/wks 1-12
Winnie @ 50mg ed wks 6/8-12
tamoxifen on-hand 10mg ed during cycle

id drop the var and prov, save it for a summer cycle, and throw some d-bol in or front-load to bring on the effects sooner....

Just me two cents bro, but i do think it makes more scense.

Sounds like a very complex cycle for a beginner why so many different steroids? more is not better. You would be much better off with more Test and EQ as these guys suggested.

I have gained 11lbs in the first 5 days of my 12 week Test E cycle500mg/week (40mg a day of dbol kickstart is responisbile for weight gain) I will be adding winnie into the mix at 50mg a day for weeks 9-14.

thats what i would recommend for a firt timer.... test and d-bol > solid cycle

hey guys,
thanks for your suggestions.
how would you suggest i take the 500 mg of test and 400 of eq weekly. what days should i keep on doing them together just twice a week?? how many days apart.

how long would you suggest i take dbol for and how many mgs of dbol again 50 mg?

i cant get more gear for at least a week or so so i guess i can add the dbol i then.

another thing is im really feeling sick. my stomach hurts a lot and my nuts too. someone told me i may have test flu or something like that. is it normal to feel like shit in the beginning? how long is this going to last. im reciculous hungry and i hurt bad???

can you change the cycle midway if you have trouble during any cycle, too a lesser cycle?
mybe due too injury/bad gear or too high of a dose? or just stop the cycle and pct down. this issue had crossed my mind afew time.

yes you can change it up mid-cycle, thats why prop is sometimes better, if your sides are to harsh for you can drop the test fast since prop is fast acting, with eth or cyp you must wait 2-3 weeks. You shouldn't have problem with to high of a dose on your first cycle, start low. Also the problem in having to much compounds in your first cycle is because you dont know what sides are coming from what compounds, thats why its suggested you do a test only cycle for 2 cycles, then add dbols for a kick start for 2 cycles, then add deca later. this way you know the feeling of each compound your using., Stay safe


Rex

hey guys,
if somebody can still help me out on how i shud split up taking 500 mg of test E and 400 mg of EQ every week. how many days apart should i do 1cc of each.

also shud i try a frontload of dbol and for how long??

is the dose im doing now really not enough?? would just adding dbol be enough??


tom is my 3rd shot of the cycle. 250 mg of test e and 200 mg of EQ please advise me on how to move on with my cycle. I'm training rediculously hard and dieting and i want to make the most of this. Please advise!


thanks guys