hey guys .. im looking to start my course of sustanon soon and i have my nolva and some clomid but i am just wanting your advice on how much nolva an clomid i should take? i currently only have enough sus for 1ml on a monday and 1ml on a thursday for 6 weeks any advice will be greatfully appreciated

thanks

im 20 yrs old
12 stone 6 ( rather lean )
been trainin 3 years
5ft 10.

thanks agen.

well, if you can get your hand on more sust, i would strongly recommend running it 10-12 weeks for optimum results.
as for the nolva. i am a believer that less is best w/ this compound. some will disagree w/ me. some say run it all the time throught out the entire course of your cycle. my feeling is that you should only use it went early signs of gyno start to appear. 25 mg/ed seems to be the normal dose for combating gyno. yes, it great for con=mbating estrogen related sides. but if you don't get any of these sides, then why take the nolva?
just my opinion.
as for the clomid.
start pct 2 weeks after your last pin of the sust.
here's your proper dosage:
day 1, 300 mgs.
days 2-10, 100 mgs.
days 11-21, 50 mgs.

hope this helps.

if you are only 20 years old id recommend you avoid using gear for at least another 12months or so, you'll regret not pushing your body naturally first, i trained for 5 years before my first cycle, i was almost 22yrs before i run my first course and was well educated about steroids and training before hand, i used to train on/off like lots of guys but had my shit together for 12months solid before jumping on a mild cycle, i made alot of progress in those 12months prior to using, and solid progress on my cycle, it talt me alot and if i could go back i may have waited a little longer before jumping in the deep end, so that i could really maximise my long-term potential....you will never gain as well as you did naturally after using steroids.....just my two cents bro, i think you should take it on board....best of luk

i can't agree more, Rob. sometimes i get so wrapped up in the details of cycle advice, i miss the big picture.
20 is too young, IMO. i had been training hard for 5 yrs. before i took the plunge at age 34. i knew that i had truly reached my natural max potential by then.
IMO, 25+ yrs. is the earliest i would recommend gear.

i agree to i didnt do gear until i trained natural for 7 years, i started at 22, again i think i was to young i think 25 years also. but aside from that if ur going to use it then i would do 500mg all at once because of the half life do it Q5days until ur out. as far as the nolva, i agree with alpha no need but the clomid take pct for 2 wks. i take nolva because of gyno and hyperprolactemia. acutually u can ruin the effects of AS with nolva. i hope it helps, benzo

hey Benzo, not to flame you bro', but sust. is a multi-ester compound of test. due to the fact that it has testosterone propionate (half-life 48-72 hrs.) it is highly recommended to pin eod or at least 3x/wk. this is required to maintain even levels of the hormone in your blood system. you don't have to take my advice. feel free to ask any of the mods here. i'm certain they will tell you the same.

hey no problem alpha, i learned something new. i dont know everything. i know sus. has prop. in it but it has longer chain esters dont it? test. e is longer acting correct? hmmmm thanks all these years i thought sustanon had a longer activity. see medicine is not like bb "medicine". thanx alpha not a problem im here to learn and teach but in this case i was off ...............take care...........benzo

alpha, so when i run sustanon 250/ml should i take 250 qod or 250mg 3xs a wk. or take 1000mg q5days? thanx bro..........benzo

well benzo, depends on your goals and experience with test. for most of us, 500 mgs/wk is sufficient for good gains.
as far as dosing goes, if it's 250 mgs/ml, then it would be best to pin .5 ml every other day(EOD). that would give you approx. 500 mgs. every 8 days and still keep your blood levels stable. yes, sust. has test decoanate, which is definetly a long-acting ester. being a multi-ester blend of test, it can make things a little more complicated at times.
i have used sust. for many years now and find that eod produces the best results w/ the fewest sides.
of course some brands of sust. are dosed differently and, therefore, require some added calculations to get a dose of approx. 500 mgs/wk. but, it is simple math either way.
myself and many other experienced bbr's prefer to use single ester test, (i.e., test e/c). they are easier to maintain proper blood levels and tend to have fewer sides. test e and c have 14/15 day half-lives and can be pinned once or twice a week. they are simply much easier to use and produce effective results.
i understand what you mean about learning about gear. truth is this is a practice and we are all at some stage of learning. even the most experienced of us.
i have been working on my RN off/on for the past four years and have learned that what we are taught through school and clinicals are very useful tools. but, at the same time, they cannot replace the knowledge of an experienced, intelligent AAS user.
there are a good number of members here and on other boards who have vastly greater knowledge about gear than i do. some of the folks i pal around w/ on the boards have masters and PhD's in medicine, along with much experience in first-hand AAS use/research. i would never pretend to be that advanced in my knowledge.
i do have a good amount of first-hand experience w/ gear and have done tremendous amounts of research over the years. still, i make the occassional mistake in these threads, and i expect to be corrected whenever i do so.
most of all, we are here to learn, share knowledge, and point newbies in the right direction as a matter of health and safety.
just last night i was conversing w/ a gentleman who has a masters in endrocinology about the benefits of using IGF1-lr3. i'll tell you this much, he really know his shit, bro'.
if i come off as arrogant or a "Mr. know-it-all", it's not intentional.
no one knows more than me how much i have yet to learn.
i say, let's all learn together and be a happy, safe family.

im doing a cycle with sust 325 in it right now and im running 650mg a week and mon wen and fri im pinning .06 ml and im loving it.