I wanted to have some of you guys look this over before I jump on this cycle. This is what I am proposing for my second cycle.


Weeks 1-12 - Test-E (or C) 600mg/week
Weeks 1-4 - Tbol 30mg ED
Weeks 1-12 - Primobolin 400mg/week
Tamaxofen @ 10mg EOD

How does this sound? Would it be overkill to throw some Winny in there?

That looks like a pretty solid cycle bro....what are your plans for your pct....i wouldnt throw winny in there i would save that and run it another time maybee with some decca or EQ

Looks good, pretty damn solid for a second cycle. IMO, no need to add any Winny to it. The success of your "cut" will be based upon your diet and cardio.

Thanks! I'll scratch the Winny then. I have a good PCT with some clomid and tamaxofen.

up the t-bol to 40-50mg ed, 30mg wont give you an overly noticeable effect from personal experience....

So I have re-evaluated my stack once I realized how much it was going to cost me with the Primo!! Freak!

So I was wondering about this cycle instead:

Test-E 500mg/week Weeks 1-10
EQ 400mg/week Weeks 1-10
Winny 50mg ED Weeks 1-10
Tam on hand

What do you think? It would be a lot cheaper - but I am also kinda dying to try Primobolin as I have heard wonderful things about it.

solid cycle, but i wouldn't run the winstrol for 10wks, i would only run it out for the last
4-6wks of your cycle otherwise its too much stress on your liver IMO, im running primo at the same dose now, and prefer the gains i got with eq, but like the low toxicity of the primo....eq fuks with my head a bit...believe it or not.

Thanks. If I only run the Winstrol for the last 5 weeks, would it be okay to throw some tbol in at the start so I am not waiting around forever for the stuff to kick in?

iv read different opinions but running nolva during ur cycle wouldnt that hinder your gains? or is 10 mg not enough to do? iv just been reading that some people say it will some wont .i was running 10 mg during my cycle as soon as i read that i stopped running it .i just woundering the only reason im asking here is because i see he is going to be running it!!!

I'm not real experienced on this, but I ran it on my last cycle and still had impressive gains. I only took it EOD, so it wasn't overkill. Just enough to keep estrogen at bay.