im starting my 2nd cycle soon so i just wanted to get any suggestions or opinions from you guys..
it will be like this:
Week 1-9: Test e 250mg/week
Week 1-8: Deca 375mg/week
Week 1-5: Dbol 20mg/day
Week 3-13: Nolvadex 20mg/day
for PCT:
Week 10-13: Clomid 50mg/day
Week 12-13: HCG 5000ui(1st shot), then another shot a week after of 1500ui.
I might be adding too much of nolvadex or clomid but it wont hurt and i want to take precautions.. so what do you guys think?? i need your advice bros!
im starting my 2nd cycle soon so i just wanted to get any suggestions or opinions from you guys..
it will be like this:
Week 1-9: Test e 250mg/week
Week 1-8: Deca 375mg/week
Week 1-5: Dbol 20mg/day
Week 3-13: Nolvadex 20mg/day
for PCT:
Week 10-13: Clomid 50mg/day
Week 12-13: HCG 5000ui(1st shot), then another shot a week after of 1500ui.
I might be adding too much of nolvadex or clomid but it wont hurt and i want to take precautions.. so what do you guys think?? i need your advice bros!
It seems like all your levels are really low. And you should always keep your test higher than your deca so you don't shut down as hard from the deca. You should probably do 250mg twice a week instead of once, and 20mg of dbol twice a day. The deca you could probably leave the same, and maybe switch the nolva out for letro because of the prolactin issues with Deca, and only take it as needed for symptoms.
You need to run deca for longer than 9 weeks as it takes 4-6 weeks to peak. Also run the test e to 12 weeks. Double your dbol and test dose and you are good. PCT you should add an ai like armoasin or arimidex too.
HCG is all wrong! dont shoot 5000iu at once!
Use 250-500 each time and shoot every 3.5 days starting in the last week of your cycle.
You need to run deca for longer than 9 weeks as it takes 4-6 weeks to peak. Also run the test e to 12 weeks. Double your dbol and test dose and you are good. PCT you should add an ai like armoasin or arimidex too.
HCG is all wrong! dont shoot 5000iu at once!
Use 250-500 each time and shoot every 3.5 days starting in the last week of your cycle.
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ok guys, so after ur advices, does this seems right to you ??
Week 1-12: Test e 500mg/week
Week 1-10: Deca 400mg/week
Week 1-5: Dbol 40mg/day
Week 3-13: Nolvadex 20mg/day
for PCT:
Week 10-13: Clomid 50mg/day
Week 13: HCG, but i still didnt get what you guys said, "Use 250-500 each time and shoot every 3.5 days starting in the last week of your cycle." so how many injections every 3 days will i need of that 250-500ui HCG??
and for arimidex? how much do i need ??
For HCG, i use 2,000, 1,500, 1,000, 500 for a total of four injects and 5,000 iu., 3 days apart starting last two weeks of cycle.
5,000 in one shot would make your balls explode, i imagine!
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Last edited by Alpha Male : 09-27-2008 at 06:19 PM.
ok guys, so after ur advices, does this seems right to you ??
Week 1-12: Test e 500mg/week
Week 1-10: Deca 400mg/week
Week 1-5: Dbol 40mg/day
Week 3-13: Nolvadex 20mg/day
for PCT:
Week 10-13: Clomid 50mg/day
Week 13: HCG, but i still didnt get what you guys said, "Use 250-500 each time and shoot every 3.5 days starting in the last week of your cycle." so how many injections every 3 days will i need of that 250-500ui HCG??
and for arimidex? how much do i need ??
That cycle is good, however, I would use the hcg 500iu week starting weeks 3 -12 preventing ball shrinkage before they turn to raisins. This works well for me. You shouldn't need the arimidex since you have nolva. I guess it would be good to have on hand just in case nolva isn't strong enough to stop itchy nips on you. But it's one or the other, not both, in my opinion.
is it okay to inject HCG IM into my biceps or triceps?? and would i be using same syringe/needle which i use to inject test or deca?? i dont want to inject it into my abs or glutes!! so does that work too?? so id shoot 500ui/week starting week 6 through week 12 or just shoot 2000ui, 1500, 1000, 500 3 days apart each, starting last two weeks of cycle?? i get some ppl saying shoot hcg while ure on cycle and some say do it after u finish ur cycle.. which one is better ?
either way is a matter of personal preference. truth is, HCG should only be used if you experience testicular atrophy (shrinkage) more than a small degree. you may not need it at all. but, it is good to keep on hand just to be safe.
do not, i repeat, do not use nolva w/ deca...deca is a 19-nor compound and does not go well w/ nolva.
for injections, you may inject either subcutaneously or intramuscularly. you may use the same needle as you use w/ your gear. but, a slin (insulin) pin is shorter and easier to measure with. i have used both methods w/ equal results. you may inject it just about anywhere you feel comfortable pinning. hope this helps.
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Last edited by Alpha Male : 09-28-2008 at 03:12 AM.
Alpha, i got your part for the HCG injection, but what should i use instead of nolva?? aramidix ?? and how mg should i take for day starting which week of my cycle?? appreciate your help man