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My 1st Cycle, need advice - 10-16-2008

Well I attached what I have in mind so far as a jpg image. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, especially about the PCT...

Also, if I were to replace the Nolva with Clomid, how would it fall into the cycle?
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10-17-2008

run the test to 12wks and bump your deca to 10wks, may wanna throw in a kickstart, is this your first cycle??? if it is forget deca....


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10-17-2008

It is my first cycle, so I'll take your word for it and remove deca.
If I ran test to 12 weeks, when would be a good time to start the HCG?
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10-17-2008

You shouldnt run Nolva on cycle and never run it with 19nors like deca as they can actually make things worse. Test only is the best first cycle. Enjoy!
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10-17-2008

Well I wont be running it on the cycle. I'm sorry for giving that impression, I shouldn't have put it in there. I meant I'm gonna have it on hand during the cycle just in case I need it. Thanks for the tips guys, I think I got it so far.

Weeks 1-12
Test Enanthate 500mg/week (750 first week)
Will have nolvadex on hand.

PCT
HCG starting in week 5 or 6 at 500iu/every 5 days, 5000 on 1st shot.
Nolvadex for weeks 13-15 at 40mg/day

I removed deca and extended the cycle, how's it look now?

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10-17-2008

personally, i would only run nolva if signs of gyno begin. some peole like to run it regardless of gyno sides or not. i believe less is more, especially for a beginner. so, wise to keep nolva on hand. but, may not be necessary to use during cycle.
as for the hcg. DO NOT RUN A SINGLE SHOT OF HCG AT 5,000 iu's. that's way too much bro'. no need to run more than 1,500 per dose at any time. you can run it at 500 iu/wk. i prefer to split my hcg up in to 3 or 4 shots the last two weeks of my cycle, especially when running test enth.
smart to leave the deca out. the test will give you great gains w/ fewer sides.
hope this helps.


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10-17-2008

Thanks alpha, one LAST question I promise!!
Should I run HCG after the 12 weeks?
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10-17-2008

hey bro', i enjoy answering questions and pointing good guys in the right direction.
here's how i like to run hcg. it has worked great for me.

take 5,000 iu's of hcg. when used on a test e cycle you want to start your hcg approx. 14days prior to your last inject. here's a simple way. 5 shots, 3 days apart.
1st pin, 1,500 iu
2nd pin, 1,500 iu
3rd pin 1,000 iu
4th pin 500 iu
5th pin 500 iu
total of 5,000 iu over a 15 day period.
some prefer 3 pins, 5 days apart. which is just fine, too.

start pct, two weeks after last test e pin.
make sure that you leave at least 10 days between the last inject of hcg and the start of your pct. 14 days is even better, IMO.
hope this helps.

keep in mind, hcg is optional and i only recommend it if your experience testicular atrophy(shrinkage) while on cycle.


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10-17-2008

Alright guys! I think I'm almost set. Here's the updated version...

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