ok here is it. im a newbie to this kind of stuff. my first cycle. after reading up and researching for quite a few months i have decided on a stacked Test Prop/stanozolol 8 week cycle at 300mg/week test, and, 50mg/day stanoplex. i believe i keep getting bad info from just about everyone. i contacted the supplier that i got it from and they suggested this forum, saying it was the best. so here goes. I would think that i would need to inject 100mg every other day of test prop to keep my levels stable. im being told to only inject mon-wedn-friday and skip non-workout days by friends, and other forums. im not sure this is right by what i have read. but what i heave read has not said anything about it specifically. just that 300-500mg a week is considered a normal dose. i am trying to keep the chances of side effects to a min along with taking it easy on my first cyle so i planned on going 300mg test prop injects a week, combined with the 50mg a day oral stanozolol. also i know most of the people at my gym personally, so i dont want to jump in weight to much all at once. also i am told that i should only take the stanoplex orals on workout days. again... i would think i would need to take them on the weekends as well to keep my levels stable.

just because i know im going to be asked i am 173lbs give or take on the day, 5'10, 24 years old, +-18%bf, and i work out 5 days a week for the past 2.5 years. i have hit a wall at 255lbs. on the bench. some weeks i do 245 and some weeks i can do 255. its really quite annoying.

also i keep being told to expect 2lbs a week at a 300mg/week dose of test prop. i would assume this is diff for every person, and not to expect this.... should i??? please guys. put me back in the right direction! thanks.

Always keep the same injection protocol of eod and forget skipping workout days that is rediculous and shows that they have no knowledge of steroids. 100mg eod is a good dose to start at. Make sure you rotate injection sites so that you dont inject the same spot more than once per week. Also running winny oral for 8 weeks is very harsh on the liver I would suggest 6 weeks as an absolute maximum and take them ed split throughout the day not all at once in the day! 2lbs per week is hard to say it depends on diet and training. It is possible but if you are cutting you will probably stay the same weight and lose bf and replace it with muscle.

Also what about PCT?

id personally start off with test cyp/enanthate at 400ml a week. only one injection but you should grow real nice if its your first cycle!! sides shouldnt really be an issuse on this but always have ancillaries ready just in case and folllow up with good PCT. as for winny ive ran that at 6wks fine but just running with the test to start should show amazin results!

Prop is better for his application as he is cutting. Also enanthate and cyp need to be injected twice per week not once.

thanks red, i figured they had no idea what they were talking about. it just didnt make sence to me.

yea i hear the stano has a pretty high liver tox. but if i cut the stano back to 6 weeks should i also cut the test back to 6 weeks and up the dose a bit?

as for PCT i have a box of clomiphene citrate. i plan to take 50mg/ed for 20 days after cycle. that should do it right?

Test P: 100 mg/eod, 10-12 wks.
Winny at 50 mg/ed, weeks 5-10 or 7-12
PCT starts 3 days after last inject.
clomid stepdown:
day 1, 300 mg.
days 2-7, 150 mg.
days 8-21, 50 mg.
milk thistle taken w/ the winny.

eight weeks is too short.

it's that simple bro'.

damn looks like i need some more test then huh. thanks a lot for your help guys. is there a time i should inject before my workout? or does that not matter? also should i just wait till after christmass new years to start? due to a little bit of drinking. im not sure that it matters. but again people say that i might has well not done the cycle if i drink anything durring it. is that true?

oh and as for the milk thistle, 1000mg/ed with the winny?

drinking while on cycle can do serious damage to your liver. actually, alcohol is one of the most damaging legal substances you can put into your body at any time. not preaching here. but, if you intend to drink during the holidays, i recommend you wait until the party's over bro'.
some say that pinning 1-2 hrs. prior to workout w/ Test P helps boost pumps. but, i really have seen no difference from my own experience.
as for the milk thistle, just follow the dosage guidelines on the label and you'll be gtg.

well i dont mean drink a lot. but a drink here and there im sure will come up. i was asking about the milk thistle because they make it in a few diff doses. like 150 175 250 and 1000. is there anything else that would be effective in detoxing? i heard someone say something about a certain kind of tea that was supposed to be really good mixed with the milk thistle.

search the internet for Liv52. it's commonly used by bodybuilders and the best detox on the market, that i know of.