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PCT options with test E for 10 weeks - 03-15-2008

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I couldnt get a direct answer from readin all the articles and posts here. I plan on doing a 10 week cycle with Testosterone Enanthate - 500mg every week for 10 weeks. After week 10 I will than switch over to Clenbuterol. I have used clen in the past and love it. I think it would be a good drug of choise for PCT from reading and help me to keep gains as well as tone down the extra fat I will be having from the cycle.

MAIN CYCLE
Week 1-10 Testosterone Enanthate - 500mg

FAT BURNER/PCT
week 10 - 12 Clenbuterol 20-140 mcg ED (gradually increasing dosage)
week 14- 16 Clenbuterol 40-140 mcg ED
week 10- 14 T3 start with 25 mcg than go up to 80 or 100mcg

PCT OPTIONS
week 12 Nolvadex 100mg first day - 60mg a day rest of week
week 13 Nolvadex 40 mg

week 12 Clomid/Clomiphene 200mg first day than 100mg rest of week
week 13 Clomid/Clomiplex 50mg ED

week 12 Tamoxiplex 100mg ED
week 13 Tamoxiplex 50mg ED

I don't know what combination of PCT drugs to take or their dosages. I can't find a great answer of what to take while on the Test E to reduce side effects. I do want to cut after the test cycle to shread the fat.

-Would it hurt if I took all 3 PCT's at once or switch them up?
-What would be better PCT- possibly one I can take to reduce water weight and gyno durring the cycle?
-Should I wait till post cycle to start clen and T3 or should I start that at week 7 or so and run it for some time?

My main goal is obvisouly to keep gains while not stacking on the fat during this cycle. If I do some HIIT and slow cardio while on the Test E, combined with a very clean diet - ( figuring ill be getting more muscle) will that help me burn the fat while on the cycle. - I worded that weird but will the Test E also play a role in getting rid of fat?
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03-15-2008

First of all Tamoxiplex is Nolvadex. It's Axiolabs brand. What I would do and what I am going to do after my current test e cycle is this:

This is 2 weeks after my last shot....

Day 1- Clomid 200mg+Tamoxiplex(novlvadex) 40 mg
Following 10 days- Clomid 50mg+Tamoxiplex 20mg
Following 10 days- Clomid 50mg or Tamoxiplex 20mg

Hope that helps


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personally i would not wanna run a clen/t3 or t4 combo straight after coming off your cycle, because your thyroid is gonna rebound a bit after you stop the t3 and steroids you are more likely to gain fat weight back quick, not only that but t3 and clen together can be catabolic and remove not only fat but muscle which might mean saying goodbye to some of your hard earnt gains...id always run an anabolic of some kind along-side fat burners to enhance the effect and preserve lean muscle, but this is just one of many opinions bro


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First of all Tamoxiplex is Nolvadex. It's Axiolabs brand. What I would do and what I am going to do after my current test e cycle is this:

This is 2 weeks after my last shot....

Day 1- Clomid 200mg+Tamoxiplex(novlvadex) 40 mg
Following 10 days- Clomid 50mg+Tamoxiplex 20mg
Following 10 days- Clomid 50mg or Tamoxiplex 20mg

Hope that helps
Nolva when used as PCT is better run 40mg for 2 weeks then another 2 weeks at 20mg, its better to take a little longer when trying to kick your bodys natty test production up rather then flooding the system with compounds and hoping they do their job.

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personally i would not wanna run a clen/t3 or t4 combo straight after coming off your cycle, because your thyroid is gonna rebound a bit after you stop the t3 and steroids you are more likely to gain fat weight back quick, not only that but t3 and clen together can be catabolic and remove not only fat but muscle which might mean saying goodbye to some of your hard earnt gains...id always run an anabolic of some kind along-side fat burners to enhance the effect and preserve lean muscle, but this is just one of many opinions bro
Listen to Rob on this man, if you want to cut do a cut, if you want to bulk do a bulk don't try and throw both into your first cycle! You will gain a little bit a body fat while on cycle but it can be minimized with diet, and since this your your first real cycle there is no better time to gain some nice quality mass! If everything is on point the fat gain will be insignificant compared to all your new muscle.


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03-15-2008

Thanks for all the help guys, I'm probably going to aim to start the cycle a little sooner than I previsouly thought. I want to make sure I have everything b4 I start tho. This technically is my 2nd cycle but .. really its my first real cycle. I did d-bol and winni for 10 weeks just about a year ago today actually than came off that and went on clen. all oral - which from what I read is totally bad - hence me finding out from the pros now what to do. again, thanks for all the help here!!!
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