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Nolva alternative - 10-30-2008

Hi,
Alpha Male has been helping me like a bad boy and I hate to keep buggin' the poor guy so I'll ask the board. I'm currently doin' deca and test C on Mondays and test P Fridays for weekend rest after heavy Thu/Fridays. After recently saying I planned to continue the test to compensate for my low natural test levels and help treat my emphysema I was advised to consider nolva with the test once I un-deca my system. A little research tells me nolva may diminish any gains realized by the test, a rather discouraging prospect. Would the nolva be merely for addressing man-boobs, and if so are there any less counterproductive alternatives? I really like the simplicity of this current cycle so any single silver bullet would be great.
Thanks for any help.
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10-30-2008

can you tell us how much deca and test you're taking?

if you show signs of deca gyno, nolva can actually have a negative effect, but if you're cutting the deca and continuing the test i find it unlikely this would happen.

IMO i like to take Proviron during cycle to help keep estro down. Save the Nolva for PCT
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10-30-2008

Oops, I guess I shoulda known to say that. Yeah, I'm taking 500 ml of both deca and test C Mondays for a total 1000 per my doc then 200 of the test P on Fridays.
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10-30-2008

A lot of things to discuss here.

First, I'm sure you mean 500mg of test and deca. No biggie, just helping you out with the terminology.

Second, it depends how much Nolva you take regarding dimenishing any gains from the test. We could get real scientific with an explanation, but suffice it to say that the Nolva will help combat estrogen related side effects. Gyno and water retention are the two main culprits here. Gyno, well who wants bitch tits? Enough said. The water retention aides in weight gain and strength gain. Of course, it will also elevate your blood pressure.

You could always have the nolva on hand and begin using it when/if you get sensitive nipples or begin looking like a water balloon.


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GOD, GRANT ME THE SERENITY TO ACCEPT THE THINGS I CANNOT CHANGE, THE COURAGE TO CHANGE THE THINGS I CAN AND THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.

KEEP YOUR CYCLES SIMPLE AND GET CREATIVE WITH YOUR DIET!
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10-30-2008

Right on, that seals that. Since this is my first cycle I'll try it that way: keep it on hand. If the test doesn't do what I'm hopin' for my emphysema I'll PCT and go that way, and if I do see results I can keep up the test and not hafta worry about walkin' to the creek playin' hacky tits. I just didn't wanna put out all this effort to build a boat with holes in it. I kinda can't wait 'til next time I get pneumonia too, see how my body--my much healthier body--handles it. I can hear the coroner now, "Cool, he barely died," ha ha, Gettin' old sucks, but it sure beats the alternative. Thanks guys. And thanks Alpha Male. I was pretty nervous about all this when I started, but I feel alot better now.
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