Ok, I gave my buddy 2-50mg Clomids and 2-25mg Tamoxiflex (nolva) for experimental purposes, he never took anything strong before at all except reg supps.
He ended up taking 75mg of Clomid and a 25mg Tomaxifn in the morning hours later he said he had one of his best work outs ever?

placebo effect??

HE said he could definetly tell something? Is he full of it or would these actually produce gains alone?

Pure placebo effect bro'. tamoxiplex (tamoxiphene citrate) and clomid (clomiphene citrate) are almost identical and they are nothing more than estrogen antagonists. in other words. they compete with the estrogen in your body and, therefore, don't allow estrogen levels to rise too high in your system.
what does this mean? it means your friend may have lowered his estrogen rate for a day or two. but, so what? doesn't do a darn thing for strength gains.

i have to tell you bro'. it is very unwise and possibly dangerous to be feeding your bro's stuff when you don't even know what it does. let alone combinations of meds.
and he should not be taking meds when he doesn't know what they are or what they do either.
do your buddy a favor and send him here to TW and you two can learn together.

lol......bump