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ECA after PCT - 06-09-2008

I'm finishing my 12 week cycle of Sust325 and EQ... PCT starts soon, which I have the std Nolvadex and Clomid for... When I'm finished with my PCT it should be fine to go ahead and start the ECA stack right? I figured it would be a good bridge before one more cutting cycle or possibly be my last cutting cycle before bulking this winter. Any opinions? How have ya'll like the ECA? I have heard great things, knowing two small things: ephedrine is a bit addicting to some, and two you grow tolerance to it... however I cannot seem to lose the last five pounds that I want to, while my diet is on point and my cardio is everyday nearly and sometimes twice. Sometimes I think my cheat meals are too few and far between. Any suggestions on the ECA?
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well if it were me, id not start till after PCT too....it will allow you to cut in after a bulk and give you some drive while you are in the gym, which is great for aiding maintenance of strength and motivation.....ECA is an all time fav for alot of people, with similar results to clen but with less sides...


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I'm finishing my 12 week cycle of Sust325 and EQ... PCT starts soon, which I have the std Nolvadex and Clomid for... When I'm finished with my PCT it should be fine to go ahead and start the ECA stack right? I figured it would be a good bridge before one more cutting cycle or possibly be my last cutting cycle before bulking this winter. Any opinions? How have ya'll like the ECA? I have heard great things, knowing two small things: ephedrine is a bit addicting to some, and two you grow tolerance to it... however I cannot seem to lose the last five pounds that I want to, while my diet is on point and my cardio is everyday nearly and sometimes twice. Sometimes I think my cheat meals are too few and far between. Any suggestions on the ECA?

the extra stubborn 5lbs is probably water weight..thats if your diet is at top notch, yes you can jump on ECA after your cycle, if you were running orals during your cycle I would say take a little time off to give your body a rest..not much to suggest with ECA...just drink lots of water and dont take it to late at night or you'll have a hell of a time sleeping

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Yeah thanks for the quick replies guys. I didn't use any orals except for T3 for 3 weeks in the 5 weeks of my cycle. It was definitely a cutting cycle and I am down around 15 lbs with an increase in strength and muscle definition most definitely. T3 was not anything big to me, didn't see much of a difference, and actually wonder how potent it was. Didn't feel much of the common symptoms at all. moved from 25 mcg to 75 mcg and cycled back down. Once again only three weeks and that was nearly 2 months ago. I'm going to wait until right after PCT so I will probably go ahead and order now.

PCT... Should I just follow the std formula?
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06-09-2008

tried the eca stack, made me sick as hell.
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Sorry to hear that........

I should add since i somehow forgot to say... i have 20x50mg Clomid and 25x20mg Tamoxifen. That should be enough to use either compound I assume or I could use both.
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the extra stubborn 5lbs is probably water weight..thats if your diet is at top notch, yes you can jump on ECA after your cycle, if you were running orals during your cycle I would say take a little time off to give your body a rest..not much to suggest with ECA...just drink lots of water and dont take it to late at night or you'll have a hell of a time sleeping

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Bump right there. I'd jump on the ECA stack right after the cycle. There has been alot of research that shows the ECA stack helps preserve muscle, and I've done done it many times and I find that its true with me.


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Thats the thing I have heard so many mixed opinions on the subject. I have TW whom I really do trust from veterans advice, and then i have personal BB friends who say the other. I could really use the ECA as a boost in the gym and so I won't be depressed working out after I'm off... However in general I guess it can be assumed that any metabolic stimulant can cause you to lose muscle mass?

As far as my diet when I come off I need to proportion up on carbs by about 10 eod for around 3 weeks and down 5 grams of protein eod for about 3 weeks which would have me around 200 carbs and protein around 250+ grams a day. Sound right for a maintenance diet for about 4 months until I bulk? Sorry if this is the wrong section to continue this guys.
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