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Ok so at the moment

100mg of deca a week for 4 to 6 weeks.
30mg of dbol a day for 4-6 weeks.

Now i have a nolva product coming or tamoxplex from axiolabs which i guess is the same thing. Now how do i take that. Do i use it on the cycle or when the cycle is over.

I hear to wait untill you think gyno is kicking in the start it at 80mg then 40mg a day after that the 20mg. Or if it doesnt take it after a cycle same way.

Has anyone used axiolabs stuff how weel does it work and how long is shipping.

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I also no i need test in their before i use anything. Thank to you guys.
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Ok so at the moment

100mg of deca a week for 4 to 6 weeks.
30mg of dbol a day for 4-6 weeks.

Now i have a nolva product coming or tamoxplex from axiolabs which i guess is the same thing. Now how do i take that. Do i use it on the cycle or when the cycle is over.

I hear to wait untill you think gyno is kicking in the start it at 80mg then 40mg a day after that the 20mg. Or if it doesnt take it after a cycle same way.

Has anyone used axiolabs stuff how weel does it work and how long is shipping.

Thanks

I also no i need test in their before i use anything. Thank to you guys.
I am assuming this is your first cycle. This is a really low dose of deca here and for only 4-6 weeks? Have you already ordered some deca or have it? I would personally go with test as your first cycle. You always want to take in more test than deca when you take deca to keep your boys down low in shape.

Well if any gyno appears or your nipples start to itch I would take only between 10-20mg everyday. 80 is way to much and will block too much estrogen and hinder your gains. The dbol looks good. I'd go with 30mg everyday split up in three doses(breakfast,lunch,dinner).

Take the nolvadez a couple of weeks after your last shot and take it like this for 4 weeks-40/40/20/20.


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Thank

This is actually a 3rd cycle. But it was just to test out because so many people just say its bad or say its good. So i was doing an expeiriment.

I was not going to use test but i am looking into getting some. How much should i use if so. And what type i heard TEST enth is good.
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Thank

This is actually a 3rd cycle. But it was just to test out because so many people just say its bad or say its good. So i was doing an expeiriment.

I was not going to use test but i am looking into getting some. How much should i use if so. And what type i heard TEST enth is good.
test is test - the only difference is the ester. Test E or C are very similar and should yield the results you are probably after..

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I am assuming this is your first cycle. This is a really low dose of deca here and for only 4-6 weeks? Have you already ordered some deca or have it? I would personally go with test as your first cycle. You always want to take in more test than deca when you take deca to keep your boys down low in shape.

Well if any gyno appears or your nipples start to itch I would take only between 10-20mg everyday. 80 is way to much and will block too much estrogen and hinder your gains. The dbol looks good. I'd go with 30mg everyday split up in three doses(breakfast,lunch,dinner).

Take the nolvadez a couple of weeks after your last shot and take it like this for 4 weeks-40/40/20/20.
bump ...- great advice

if this is your first cycle I would hold back on running the Nolvadex during the cycle unless you get the signs of gyno - no point in using a compound you unless you need it

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Doesn't anyone use Arimiplex? Nolvadex is ok to use but the Arimiplex is by far the best way to go. Take 1/2mg every other day and you'll be fine. Never wait to start a anti- until you have signs of gyno. Then its to late. You now have gyno. Real smart. Spend the extra money and keep estrogen in check.


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Doesn't anyone use Arimiplex? Nolvadex is ok to use but the Arimiplex is by far the best way to go. Take 1/2mg every other day and you'll be fine. Never wait to start a anti- until you have signs of gyno. Then its to late. You now have gyno. Real smart. Spend the extra money and keep estrogen in check.


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This is not so - you can get the early signs of gyno like sore tender nipples but not actually get full blown gyno. When your nipples do become tender running a anti E then will stop the gyno from forming.

Before gyno sets in the gland behind the nipple will actually expand feeling like a small lump but again not actually being full blown gyno stating an anti E will stop gyno from forming.

My body seems to cope with estrogen quite well and over the years when I have experienced sore tender nipples many times. I give my body 5-7 days and it seems to start coping with the extra estrogen by its self and the tenderness disappears - If I have tender nipples for longer than a week then I use an anti E...

When you get gyno signs on the first day you are not going to wake up the next day with a great lump behind your nipples - your body gives you plenty of warning signs
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Jam, do you hear yourself. You can get gyno but that not full blown gyno. What is that shit. You should always recommend an anti estrogen to someone looking to do aas. You always have to keep estrogen in check. We don't care how you react here. Do you know anything about this guy here, how he has reacted in the past to ass or how he is going to react to this one. If he will stay on top of it, know what he is looking for ect. Then if he does not have it on hand it may take him a few weeks to get it. Oh thats right he just has gyno now but that not full blown gyno by your terms. Maybe you can pay for his doctor visit since you have all the knowlege about this.

Jam, Gynecomastia is the enlargement of the breast in a male. Creating fatty cells (subcutaneous adipose tissue) in the mammary glands. Gynecomastia is a condition in which firm breast tissue forms in males. The breast tissue is usually less than 1-1/2 inches across and is located directly under the nipple. Gyno is not just a lump under the nipple. There are many forms of gyno and everyone will react differently.

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Jam, do you hear yourself. You can get gyno but that not full blown gyno. What is that shit. You should always recommend an anti estrogen to someone looking to do aas. You always have to keep estrogen in check.
If he will stay on top of it, know what he is looking for ect.. Oh thats right he just has gyno now but that not full blown gyno by your terms. Maybe you can pay for his doctor visit since you have all the knowlege about this..

if you read my reply properly I said you can get the signs of gyno ie itchy/tender nipples but this does not mean you will 100% get a lump behind your nipples resulting in gyno. tender nipples is a warning sign that you have the onset of gyno and can be treated in time before a lump appears... what is so hard to understand about that????



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Then if he does not have it on hand it may take him a few weeks to get it..
And where did I say not to have any ant e's on hand - not to use them in a cycle if you need them????- I didnt... At no point would I ever say not to have an anti E on hand while running AAS's...

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We don't care how you react here
.. strange I thought some of the information on forums like this was from people who had "real life" experience from using AAS's and not from just copy and pasting text found on the net...
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if you read my reply properly I said you can get the signs of gyno ie itchy/tender nipples but this does not mean you will 100% get a lump behind your nipples resulting in gyno. tender nipples is a warning sign that you have the onset of gyno and can be treated in time before a lump appears... what is so hard to understand about that????




And where did I say not to have any ant e's on hand - not to use them in a cycle if you need them????- I didnt... At no point would I ever say not to have an anti E on hand while running AAS's...

.. strange I thought some of the information on forums like this was from people who had "real life" experience from using AAS's and not from just copy and pasting text found on the net...
i understand bro....lol


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