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1st cycle ending pct q's - 10-11-2008

1st cycle at excactly 11wks with 2 wks remaining test only:
test-e 500mg/wk 13wks.
eq 500mg/wk 11wks.
i have 7500iu hcg, clomid, nolvadex, arimiplex
have taken a total of 4 arimiplex on cycle for water retention(though not hardly any), only slight bacne as far as sides. have been reading conflicting views regarding pct., wanted some advice. testes are maybe very slightly smaller, wondered if hcg is good idea and if it could hurt? and how to dose it? should i take arimiplex .5 eod after last shot and throughout pct with nolvadex and clomid to keep estrogen down? if so then with just hcg then clomid? or with just clomid and nolvadex? preesh.
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1st cycle at excactly 11wks with 2 wks remaining test only:
test-e 500mg/wk 13wks.
eq 500mg/wk 11wks.
i have 7500iu hcg, clomid, nolvadex, arimiplex
have taken a total of 4 arimiplex on cycle for water retention(though not hardly any), only slight bacne as far as sides. have been reading conflicting views regarding pct., wanted some advice. testes are maybe very slightly smaller, wondered if hcg is good idea and if it could hurt? and how to dose it? should i take arimiplex .5 eod after last shot and throughout pct with nolvadex and clomid to keep estrogen down? if so then with just hcg then clomid? or with just clomid and nolvadex? preesh.
hcg is optional, if you run it id do 3 shots of 1500iu or less, thats what alot of guys prefer, right at the end of a cycle.....adex during pct is great,really helps wth water retention and fat gain....clomid/tamoxifen are your base, but if you are planning on staying with adex you could drop out one of the two...

my last cycle i hit pct hard coz i was on for like 15wks, clomid/tamoxifen for 4wks step down method with 3shots of hcg prior to that and adex eod.....until i ran out,

i feel i did recover well from my last cycle and maintained alot of strength but lost some bulk....

its all trial and error bro


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10-25-2008

hiya. im just about to finish a 12wk cycle of sustanon 250 with d-bol kickstart. can i just use clomid and nolva as my pct, will that be ok.?? i also plan on running creatine with pct. thanks
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10-25-2008

sure. that's fine, bro'.
as for the creatine. you can take that during pct, too. just keep in mind that you need to stay well hydrated while using creatine.


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hey bigd - 10-25-2008

my opinion is to do 1500ius3xs wk with clomid 100mg 1st week 50mg 2nd wk then creatine and glutamine with something call bronkaid tablets, they sell it at rite aide or wallgreens 60ct. at walgreens and 24 ct. at rite aide, where i live, its got ephedrine 25mg in it with guafenisann 200mg take the prescribed dose or to much will split ur teeth, u just have to ask for it because u need id to get it because ephedrine, thats how i run mine, take it easy bigd, benzo




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heres how i do my pct with supplements i do creatine glutamine with a scoop of dextrose, they sell it in bags, then i mix it with grape drink but the only other drug i use besides the supplements is slin 70/30 taken 1.5 ius 45 mins after traing with the supps. i stop the slin after wk 4 then reapeat cycle. how is yours? thanx bro, benzo

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10-25-2008

i wouldn't recommend using the same pct protocol with a test cycle as i would a supps cycle. i am not an expert on supps. so, i won't tackle that one.
as for for pct on a test cycle.

clomid regimen:

start two weeks after last pin of sust.
day 1, 300 mgs.
days 2-10, 100 mgs.
days 11-20, 50 mgs.
nolva, 25 mgs/ed.

hcg protocol:

1,500 iu 3x, every 5 days.
start hcg two weks prior to last pin of sust.
or
1st pin, 1,500 iu
2nd pin 1,500
3rd pin 1,000
4th pin 500
5th pin 500
every 3 days.
of course, hcg is optional and i only recommend it you have experienved more than a little testicular atrophy (shrinkage).
hope this helps.


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hey alpha - 10-25-2008

thats a good pct protocol ill try it the next cycle, like i said this is good for everyone to exchange wat works for each other. u never stop learning. alpha do u take milk thistle or saw pawmetto? thanx............benzo


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i took a look at ur profile u dont look like u need any advice, keep up the training ur in excellent shape.....................benzo

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10-26-2008

yes benzo, i use milk thistle as a cheap, readily available form of liver support. i would recommend liv52 for the most effective results.
oral AAS are often liver toxic and i strongly recommend the use of cycle suport, especially liver detox supps when incorporating orals into an AAS cycle.
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