hello to all at trainwiser.com!

this is my first post to everyone so ithought id do my introduction here too! im relatively new to the bb world but have been into fitness for a few years now.

i have just started my first cycle of testoviron/deca/d-bol,i am pretty much on top of my diet and up until now have been happy with the results im seing but last night had a bit of a worry in that i found myself short of breath,im not sure what has caused this,i have heard it can happen with test cycles and am not too sure what the actual facts are.i have recently been doing more than my usual 20/30 min cardio to warm up as i feel i get more benefit from the weights when i do,could this be the cause of it? or is it just generally a side of the test and nothing to worry about? any advice would be greatly appreciated! thanks.

You are using some high bloating compounds. The water retention and bloating with your cycle is probably the culprit.

I know there are times for me that I lose my breathe walking up my stairs to go to bed. A good test for me is, do I have difficulty bending over to tie my shoes. If it is hard to tie my shoes, then I know I am a bit bloated and need some anti e in my system.

I would suggest you use some arimidex at .5mg to 1mg EOD to eleviate some of the estrogen related sides, this will help the bloating and in return will probably help with your shortness of breathe.

The other thing is this is your first cycle, there is no need for the deca and dbol. I would cut out both the deca and dbol and just go with straight test. This is important so you can figure out how your body reacts to test, right now you dont know which of the 3 compounds is creating the issue.

thanks for the speedy reply! a good few points to consider there thankyou

before i started my cycle and chose what i was going to take i did do as much research as i could so i felt comfortable with it however i did not do proper research into anti e drugs and the only one i have is tamoxifen which i have since found out has more of a negative effect on anything else in my system than any other anti e,i have done regular checks for gyno as you should and feel im ok in that respect so did not feel any need for it and have saved it for my pct,its not ideal and i will get some arimidex asap but would this do a similar job in the same dose? (5mg eod)

Nope, nolva works differently. Stick with adex, perfect for your current cycle and will do the job.

high blood pressure wont help either

Rex

yeah yopu just get that way some time when messing with the hormones in your body i wouldnt worry about it to much unless it gets bad ... i remeamber being on some test when i was in highschool and i was a wrestler in perfect shape and like 20 sec into a match of mine i could hardly breath felt like i was going to pass out ... but i was fine finished the match and calmed down a little

thanks for all your input guys,the anti e has worked,i didnt have any arimidex so i had to settle for the nova,it took about 24 hours but 20mg done the job! ill just take that as and when i need it until my arimidex turns up.

i have one other question on a point Rex made,blood pressure.how do you guys deal with it should it get too high? i understand there are many things you can do to keep it under control such as your diet but are there any other measures you can take?

well i mean if your working out and it feels like your chest is about to explode and your gunna pass out ... stop working out ( for that dont ... dont stop forever)

The anti e will help bring your BP down alot. Watch your sodium intake, drink lots of water. I also have a friend who uses a single aspirin when he feels his BP gets too high, he swears by this although I have never tried it before myself.