hey guys,

I have been on my cycle for 2 weeks now shooting sustaplex 325 (2 times a week), with decaplex 275 the same twice a week. also included is 40mg of t-bol ED.

Just entering the last few days of week two i have noticed really sore nipples, slightly swollen. mostly on one side although they are both sensitive shall we say

I had already started taking proviroplex 25mg ED in week 2, but have now started taking 25mg of exeplex, and 20mg of tamoxiplex as i think i might have the warning signs of gyno.

Would you say my assumption is correct, and if so do you think the AI and Anti E i am now taking will be good enough protection to continue.

Whats the protocol for gyno, if symptoms persist should i be stopping the cycle totally? or just ramping up the Anti E's???


Any advice would be hugely appreciated

It could be prolactin/progesterone,if so look into cabscar(sorry dnt remember how to spell it)

sounds like some early signs of gyno. I would up your nolva for about two or three days maybe to 40mg then stay at 20mg ed you might need some A-dex but the nolva should do the trick.

Awesome thanks guys, i'll look in to your suggestions straight away. cant help to have this stuff on hand

So would Bromo help with this? I have that!

problem is no one really knows if it is caused by prolaction/progetserone Nolvadex wont do shit for you now if it is caused from estrogen then yes nolva will work....cebaser is wicked for prolactin problems...Bromo i dont know about never used it......

Yeah buddy tri is right it could be estro related if so,adex would work,but if its prolactin/progesterone then bromo should work,worst case scenerio use some letro for 2-3 weeks you'll short change yerself in gains and cholesterole levels might go up as well from what I've read but hey,I'd rather not gain 7lbs and not get gyno as opposed to vice versa ya know?try runnen the bromo and uppen the nolva,I'm sorry I can't help more man,but the guys here have WAYY more exp and knowledge and I'm sure they'll help u out. Take care

You guys have been awesome thus far, thanks very much for all your help

bromo is pretty much the same as dostinex ( cabaser ) perhaps not as effective but will aid reducing any increase in prolactin, prolactin and estrogen are related so an increase in estrogen usually means an increase in prolactin which can in turn aggrevate issues with gyno when using a nor derived compound, the best way to control this is to try and get to the route of the problem and have all the correct meds on-hand just in case....
a decent AI like adex or exceplex will prevent an incease in estrogen from your sustanon,
and the bromo will help with increased prolactin....and if it were me id have letro
on-hand, thats pretty much the only thing that is gonna control your gyno once you have it having used deca or tren....tamoxifen will only work with estrogen related side effects....
thats a pretty heavy cycle anyways bro.....so it could be either of the two, id maybe consider lowering the deca first then see how you feel, this is why its best to know your drugs before jumping in the deep end....

Dude i totally hear ya on this one, sad thing is i spent nearly 6months researching and learning stuff for this cycle, and although orals were the only experience beforehand i thought all my reading would at least have got me to a steady base ... how the hell did i miss the prolactin stuff! I was so gutted when my planning suddenly wasnt enough, but i'm not to proud to ask for help lol.

I have Letro, bromo, and exeplex on the way as i only provisioned with tamoxifen, bromo, and proviroplex. Wrong choices on the proviroplex me thinks.

The bromo has really made a difference at 2.5mg a day, i believe i have managed to nip it in the bud, but as you say letro is never a bad thing to have on the shelf just in case.

Im considering dropping the Deca to 400mg shot in 2x200mg dosages a week. This should hopefully drop the soreness and i can then decrease the bromo to 1.25mg as it really makes me feel lathargic!

Thanks to everyone again, especially the guys on this forum thread. Keep on feeding me with the knowledge guys! thanks!