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what to use - 01-24-2008

just wondering what you guys recamend,300 pds work out everyday ,i was thinking of winstrol,any sugestions
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01-24-2008

Need more info, height, bf % goals are you just trying to lose weight? if so diet is key and then there are things like clenbuterol that may halp. What are you trying to accomplish?
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01-24-2008

yeh we need to know stats etc. t4 and clen is a sure fire way to loose weight but you gotta know what you are doing, i have a friend about to delve into this, this is what i have in mind for him, he's over-weight and has a hard time loosing weight.....

T4

Days 1&2: 200mcgs
Days 3&4: 300mcgs
Days 5-23: 400mcgs
Days 24&25: 300mcgs
Days 26&27: 200mcgs
Days 28-32 : 150mcgs
Days 33-36 : 100mcgs
Days 37-42 : 50 mcgs

during his break from the T4 he will cycle clen, we are thinking he may stack 50mg of winstrol ed along-side the T4 to help prevent muscle loss....


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01-24-2008

Alright.. thanks for some replies already... Some info on me...I'm Canadian... I'm 35, 5'11' -300lbs...340 when i started dieting .. going good so far... diet is great... workouts are fatastic.. eating really clean.. i have GOALS and I want to reach them...and its like I hit a plateau.. harder and harder to keep loosing the weight... I would like to be about 250-270 depending on how well "it" goes... I am a "solid" build (happy with my muscle size) but want to loose the belly... i have the classic truck excess weight... I would be/am new to this kind of supplimentation so I supposed gettin the exact products would/might be more difficult... but in anycase... Please let me know what would be good... as my knowledge isnt "great" for this stuff... I've tried E.C.A. stack couple years ago and the side effects of the ephedrine were the classics... but the racing heart made me cautious and was uncomfortable...

So I guess what I'm asking is, well I hope you guys can help, try make me some different stacks to help me, It seems everyone hear is very knowledgeable and I appreciate any info/advice.

Thanks so much
Colliersman
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01-25-2008

Firstly, only a change in your diet will get you to lose that stomach, gear or no gear. Once you understand this, it becomes easier...

For very rapid (14 days) fat loss, with minimal muscle loss, check out the Metabolic Diet. There should be some details on t-nation.com, but you may have to find the book. When I first read it, I said "No-one can follow this and survive", but hey, it works. There is also the velocity diet (28 days), which is do-able. Low carb works well in the 28day to 36 day window. This can all be done naturally, and without any supplements.

Once you have decided on a diet, and are committed to it, you can then decide to either take the gear (winny, equipoise, masteron,t3/t4, dnp) either alongside the diet, or after the diet. DNP does not go with low carb or metabolic diets. T3/T4 go with anything. You should also look into Glucophage/metformin. For may people, it will help you lose weight just as fast as t3 and the gang - again, depending on your diet. Glucophage works simply by improving your insulin resistance.

Also, there is this Bodybuilding.com - Jonathan Deprospo - Militant Fat Loss Tricks: Legal And Illegal Methods. and number of other similar articles on bodybuilding.com. Don't forget to read Big Cat's steroid profiles whilst you are there. It gives insight on which chemicals to use for certain purposes.

Ultimately, most gear you try will work, provided your diet is in check. Just stay away from the beer diet


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