Any one ever use this stuff...Everything I've read about it says to basically stay away from it but that it's the greatest fat burner of all time...

thats what I heard as well the best fat burner out there, I have no experence with DNP, Ill bump this up for some with experence with DNP

Rex

I have alot of experience with it! In fact I am on day 4 of an 8 day cycle. Its not as bad as made out to be as long as you use it correctly.

It is important to take the right supplements with the DNP, most good DNP sources mix in the vitamins, antihistamine, antioxidants, and an appetite supressent!

I will say that I have found a more effective way to use DNP. I started using a protocol that start 4 weeks into a either a cutting cycle or a clean bulker. DNP does not need a calorie deficit to work, it works from the inside out through the muscles. It is also said that it raises your metabolism by up to 50%.

The way this protocol works is by using a 4 day low dose blitz then taking 5 days off and then back to another 4 days on at say 300-400mg per day. If done correctly you will burn fat while increasing lean mass on cycle. It can also be effective if you use this protocol on a bulking cycle as it will help keep the extra body fat off that comes with bulking!

Again, DNP is a harsh chemical. But if used correctly and at doses which are safe then you will love the compound. I would suggest to do as much research on the compound as possible before trying it out!

2,4-Dinitrophenol DNP In The World Of Bodybuilding
Originally used as an ignitor for TNT as well as a pesticide, researchers at Stanford University discovered that DNP causes weight loss in 1933. The late pioneer bodybuilding Dan Duchaine wrote about DNP for fat reducing weight loss and DNP has been used in the hardcore bodybuilding underground for fat and weight loss for decades.

Compared to other thermogenic, fat reducing, and weight loss agents such as the epederine/caffeine/aspirin (ECA) stack would boost the user's metabolism 3% or the Clenbuterol/Cytomel T-3 stack which would boost metabolism 5-10%, DNP was seen to raise metabolism up to a relatively controlled 50% making DNP a seemingly miracle supplement. While clen/t-3, ECA, and others significantly raised the body's temperature, DNP raised internal temperature 2-4 degrees F.

The main problem with DNP is its severe side effects. Exercise during a DNP cycle should be kept to light workouts. DNP has not been seen to cause cancer, but death is a posibility if DNP raises the user's body temperature too high as there is not limit to how hot DNP can make the user's body. The lethal dose of DNP is only 4 times the dose that is effective in losing weight and fat loss.

DNP is not an appetite suppressant, so a user will be hungry, and DNP users will especially crave carbohydrates due to glucose inefficiency. Some users may be allergic, and less than 1% of women who used DNP in the 1930's for fat reducing and weight loss developed cataracts which led to the 1938 FDA 2,4-dinitrophenol DNP ban as a weight loss drug.

DNP since has been used off and on with scrutiny from within and outside the bodybuilding industry. Protesters of DNP note that DNP is not a forgiving chemical. Understanding what the effects, risks, and limitations of the substance are before trying to acquire and use DNP promote their hopes to deter potential DNP users, but the effectiveness of DNP to help with fat reduction and ultimately weight loss is hard to deny. A danger is the fact that DNP has a cumulative effect with a 36-hour half-life. DNP takes up to 48 hours to flush from a user's system. Many bodybuilders adapt the "more is better" theory to their use of DNP severely increasing their risk of harmful side effects and possibly death.


Weight Loss with DNP - Scientifically Speaking
DNP accomplishes the astounding boost in metabolic rate via inhibition of the F0F1 ATP synthase molecule, located in the inner wall of each mitochondrion. While the electron transport chain still functions to pump hydrogen ions into the inter-membrane space, the coupling of the proton gradient to ATP production is rendered impossible by DNP. As a result, ATP production is dramatically reduced, and the energy is instead thrown off as heat. This results in an astounding production of heat; when using dinitrophenol, the athlete will radiate so much heat that it is uncomfortable to be within any proximity of them. Luckily, this heat does not fully contribute to body temperature increases, and is instead thrown off from the entire body surface, particularly the head. As a result, adequate doses of DNP will usually only elevate body temperature by about 1-1.5?C. This is a good thing for your central nervous system and other delicate tissues. If the heat produced by ATP contributed in a more direct matter to body temperature, effective doses for fat loss would cause body temperature increase. Nonetheless, overheating is a very real danger.

Under these conditions, much of the food that we eat could not be used for ATP synthesis and we lose weight. However, too much inhibitor and we could make too little ATP for life. The difference between weight loss and death is only a small concentration change in dinitrophenol, making the drug dangerous. Simply put, this means that while eating your normal diet, you will have somewhere between 20% and 40% reduction of calories.

Risks of using 2,4-Dinitrophenol DNP for Weight Loss
Hearing all of these wonderful things probably has you wondering what the side effects and risks are. They are quite formidable and contribute to making DNP one of the most intolerable (though effective) drugs used in bodybuilding.

Overheating - There is no upper limit to DNP's body temperature increase, meaning that one may literally "cook from the inside" if they take too much. Dosage considerations will be given later, but even an overdose of 4-6 times the recommended dosage may be lethal. Much smaller overdoses may result in damage to the brain and/or other body systems such as the liver and kidneys. Supplements help reduce this risk.
Dehydration - Probably the single most dangerous aspect of DNP usage, dehydration sets in when the muscles and other body systems do not have enough glucose to stay properly hydrated. The body's temperature raise is much more harmful when it has no water to regulate temperatures and glucose levels. This can be battled b y replacing electrolytes with Potassium supplementation and supplementing with Glycerol, a muscle hydrator and energizer.
Carcinogenesis - Phenols in general are reputed to be carcinogenic. Although 2,4-dinitrophenol has never been implicated in a cancer diagnosis, some are nonetheless concerned, and understandably so. In addition to the inherent carcinogenic potential caused by its status as a phenol, production of free radicals and the release of various compounds stored in adipose tissue stores during DNP's rapid oxidation of fat may also potentially be harmful.
Discomfort and sweating - This is the single most noticeable effect of DNP use, both by the user and those around him/her. Even in the winter, while indoors at ambient temperatures, one may expect his or her shirt to be completely soaked through with sweat. Those with jobs requiring formal or semi-formal apparel are advised to consider other means of fat loss (or a new job, if preferred). Other obvious considerations lie in the areas of social life, personal appearance, etc. and the user must prioritize.
Insomnia - Second in frequency of reports to sweating and discomfort is insomnia. This may be at least partially attributed to discomfort. Possible means of countering this include such supplements as Valerian root or melatonin. Alternatively, one may deal with this via prescription or OTC sleep medications or GHB-A precursors. However, these may be addictive if used on a regular basis and if their use may be avoided, by all means abstain from using them.
Yellow bodily fluids - Some don't notice this, but others find that all of their bodily fluids take on a yellowish appearance. Urine is a darker yellow, and even semen and vaginal secretions may be affected. According to current knowledge, this is not known to be harmful in and of itself.
Muscle soreness - This is yet another thing that may be minimized via cerebral function. Dan Duchaine has recommended using a weight such as to allow no fewer than 15 reps per set of any weight training workout; judging from anecdotal reports and personal experience, this seems to be good advice. Low levels of ATP are a cause of muscle soreness in and of itself. The additional factor of encumbered recovery mechanisms make extreme soreness (and if not careful, catabolism) quite possible.
Allergic reactions - These are highly individualized but may be summarily discussed. Various reactions are common with DNP use, and approximately 10% of users will be extremely allergic to it. Allergic reactions can include hives, blisters, and/or inexplicable rashes.
Carbohydrate Cravings - To counter this, some methods will be touched on later. As with most diets, willpower is sometimes the single most important factor. Other drugs such as Meridia and supplements such as Hot Rox give a user the edge to combat these cravings as well as boost energy.

hey whats up ,i wanted to know while being on dnp,can you still do cardio and workout hard.or not because i read that you cannot do cardio and workout hard.what do you guys think about this.

from what I can see your workouts and cardio should be light...

It depends on the dosage that you choose to go to! On a standard DNP protocol of 8 days, the max dosage I go to with Crytal is 600mg, the max amount of powder DNP is 700mg ED. On these dosages I can work out like normal but will sweat like a pig! Cardio on these dosages are tough, however a nice 20 minute fast walk first thing in the morning can do you some good, just dont over do it.

I know people who have used a low dose longer cycle (14 days) protocol at say 300mg ED and can work out like normal including cardio and be just fine. If you do choose to train while on, just make sure you keep your bodt hydrated with lots of water and stay away from high carb drinks such as gatorade, the carbs will generate extra heat within your body!

sounds awsome, what are the doses for woman?

Rex

Females should not go over 400mgof either crytal or powder! I recomend powder for females as it is not as potent and a bit easier to handle. At 400mg females can hit up a 7-8 day blitz and have some good success.

Females should noy use if they are trying to get pregnant, as a matter of a fact females should not have sex the entire cycle plus 4 extra days!

My wife must think she is on this.... some reason I'm getting more action with my hand as of late lol