also with the test. i know how u feel about that but i just can't get my hands on real gear. alot of the websites online are not real and the ones that are just bug me out. it's real sketchy to be giving out your information for illegal shit online you know???that's why i prefer the pro hormones and to boot i like taking the pills rather than stickin my self. ive used real gear once before and the results for me aren't that far off. so bak to the test issue is there any pill i can get like a test booster or something that i can put with the winztrol?(btw when u say winne i think you are thinking of real gear, im talking about the winztrol[3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol without the c17 alkylation.)just to be sure we are on the same page brotha..lol anyways let meknow thanks again for the guidance